EVE General Discussion

How would nerfing high sec equate to more subscriptions or money for CCP?

How would nerfing high sec equate to more subscriptions or money for CCP?

Why not? EVE is so vast it welcomes many different playstyles. As long as solo players understand and accept that they're making the game harder for themselves, and losing out on most of the fun.

I answered this one before but, it will allow for more emergent game play which is what CCP gets the most free high impact advertising for. Through some math formula you can turn estimated advertising $ into estimated subscription increase.

I agree, helicopter parenting applies directly to people who cry "nerf highsec"

1. Need for control: make war declarations immediate so I can kill people without concord intervention faster!

2. Bigger, better, faster: It's never good enough, make it better CCP

3. Fear the failure: But if Concord is going to show up and destroy my ship for attacking a miner, it de-incentivizes my desire to act how I wish!

4. Desire to live vicariously: Concord should not exist because I'm tired of them showing up and killing my ship after I attack someone!

5. Entitlement: Self explanatory(their thinking their desire of how things should be taking precedence over others).

6. Wanting to attack people whom CCP have gone out of their way to implement systems to deter aggression against.


Works both ways really, it just depends which side of the fence your on.

I have no idea of the exact formula, I'm a scientist not an economist, I do know it exists.

You are assuming the highsec pubbie rapture myth is true, that is simply not the case.

Highsec as it is, is an abomination and must be nerfed.

Picture a rosebush, this represents the game. Sometimes it gets too unweildly and needs to be pruned and after pruning it grows back stronger than before.

Highsec has grown unweildly, the safety has been continually increasing much like an unweildly rose bush is continually growing in every which way except the way you want it to.

How has it done this?

It wraps newbies in bubble wrap and allows them to fall when it will most hurt them. For example a newbie that never leaves highsec or participates in any direct PVP hauls all of their stuff in a paper thin industrial which is suicide ganked. Had highsec not have been coddling them they would have died in much cheaper easier to replace things and learned how to manipulate risk : reward to their own advantage.

It allows blight to spread by protecting veteran players from consequences brought about by their own actions. For example the 5 year veteran NPC corp member who hauls billions around highsec completely risk and effort free thanks to wardec immunity/autopilot.

Finally and most insidiously it promotes a toxic ideology of risk aversion. Which is a threat to the economy and game as we know it.


Nerfing highsec by removing wardec invulnerably, by decreasing CONCORD effectiveness, by reducing npc corp advantage, and by actually limiting its resources would allow EVE to expand to new horizons. It would take niches currently filled by NPCs and allow players to fill them proving tonnes of new emergent game play.


One final truth, the highsec pubbie rapture is a lie, thousands of players will not be sucked up gigantic tubes of glowing light to new PVP-free spaceship MMOs if highsec is nerfed. The subscriber base will instead experience unprecedented growth.

Yes lets nerf high sec even more so everyone can become relevant f1 button mashers in the most safest place in the game.

Yes lets nerf high sec even more so everyone can become relevant f1 button mashers in the most safest place in the game.