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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#1 - 2014-04-24 11:16:32 UTC
o/ CSM8 (and 9 nominees)

After the summer expansion moving compressed ore about in new eden will be more important then before.

Making compressed ore is done with a Rorqual and is a nice mini career within eve, but can not be done in hisec.

After the summer expansion I honestly suspect that the demand will go up a lot for compressed ore, could the CSM please ask internally and behind the NDA wall to look at the numbers.

Perhaps this is an excellent opportunity for CCP, with the help of the CSM, to introduce a Personal Deployable Structure that can use mineral compression blueprints Cool

Regards, a Freelancer

PS: I have the feeling that CCP tells nobody, not even the CSM any numbers related to how much minerals are brought into the game by miners, but this is a question about mineral compressed ore being shipped around new eden.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#2 - 2014-04-24 15:44:44 UTC

The Medium Intensive Refinery is being turned into a Compression Array. These will be deployable at all POS's, and provides a highsec means to compress ore.

Your suggestion, a personal deployable compressor will eliminate the entire purpose of the above module.

-- It is deployable anywhere, like directly in trade hubs.
-- It doesn't require fuel.
-- It doesn't require being in a Player corp with POS roles.

Essentially, it has all of the benefits without the drawbacks. This is unacceptable, and I'd ask what drawbacks could we find to give your personal compressor to balance it?

Perhaps the combination of the below will bring it into balance:
♦ Compression time is lengthy. Perhaps unlimited compression jobs, but each job takes 2 hrs to complete.
♦ Freely engageable by anyone (like the Mobile Tractor Unit).
♦ Limited bay size, to limit how many jobs it may run.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#3 - 2014-04-24 17:44:39 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Perhaps the combination of the below will bring it into balance:
♦ Compression time is lengthy. Perhaps unlimited compression jobs, but each job takes 2 hrs to complete.
♦ Freely engageable by anyone (like the Mobile Tractor Unit).
♦ Limited bay size, to limit how many jobs it may run.


i can imagine a miner or two in hulks unloading into the mobile structure as they mine, which is then stolen from or attacked by a highsec pirate
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#4 - 2014-04-24 17:48:24 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Perhaps the combination of the below will bring it into balance:
♦ Compression time is lengthy. Perhaps unlimited compression jobs, but each job takes 2 hrs to complete.
♦ Freely engageable by anyone (like the Mobile Tractor Unit).
♦ Limited bay size, to limit how many jobs it may run.


i can imagine a miner or two in hulks unloading into the mobile structure as they mine, which is then stolen from or attacked by a highsec pirate


Thank you for pointing out why it MUST be attackable by everyone. If it wasn't, miners would use it as "deployable" storage facilities that also compress ore while mining.

I can't wait for the tears this could generate.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#5 - 2014-04-24 18:00:51 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
i can imagine a miner or two in hulks unloading into the mobile structure as they mine, which is then stolen from or attacked by a highsec pirate


Thank you for pointing out why it MUST be attackable by everyone. ...

i meant it more as 'this may generate gameplay', i think it's neat
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#6 - 2014-04-24 20:18:49 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

The Medium Intensive Refinery is being turned into a Compression Array. These will be deployable at all POS's, and provides a highsec means to compress ore.


Thanks for the info, however till CCP "fixes" POS, deployables could be the way to go.

I will let CCP decide with feedback from the CSM (and later on perhaps the community) what drawbacks a Personal Deployable Structure should have that can use mineral compression blueprints Cool

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-25 01:46:43 UTC
Freelancer117 wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

The Medium Intensive Refinery is being turned into a Compression Array. These will be deployable at all POS's, and provides a highsec means to compress ore.


Thanks for the info, however till CCP "fixes" POS, deployables could be the way to go.

While there could be an interesting niche for a deployable like what you're talking about, it should be to fill a niche, not replace the POS module. The compression array is perfectly serviceable and actually downright good as far as things you do with a POS go and it doesn't really need to be replaced. In fact depending on the reason you're compressing in the first place it's arguably better than a rorqual, given the size of its cargo bay.

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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#8 - 2014-04-26 17:52:44 UTC
Freelancer117 wrote:
o/ CSM8 (and 9 nominees)

After the summer expansion moving compressed ore about in new eden will be more important then before.

Making compressed ore is done with a Rorqual and is a nice mini career within eve, but can not be done in hisec.

After the summer expansion I honestly suspect that the demand will go up a lot for compressed ore, could the CSM please ask internally and behind the NDA wall to look at the numbers.

Perhaps this is an excellent opportunity for CCP, with the help of the CSM, to introduce a Personal Deployable Structure that can use mineral compression blueprints Cool

Regards, a Freelancer

PS: I have the feeling that CCP tells nobody, not even the CSM any numbers related to how much minerals are brought into the game by miners, but this is a question about mineral compressed ore being shipped around new eden.


I'm not sure you have read the dev blog fully. If the current proposal goes through CCP plans to get rid of mineral compression blueprints. There will be a new POS array that can compress ore in high sec systems, or rather a recycling of another current POS array into the new one. Providing you have the anchoring skill you will be able to anchor a small POS anywhere in high sec and do compression while in a player run corp. This is virtually like having a personal deployable structure.

Actually I think personal deployable structures are littering space everywhere atm notably at Jita and the trade routes leading out from there. Hopefully CCP can use the personal deployable structure computer coding to develop a new POS system soon. Then the current POS system can be trashed and the ability to just plonk personal deployables , particularly MTU's, can be limited or brought under some kind of control. A two hour time limit on personal deployables would be best.

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