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Healthy plex market !

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Iorga Eeta
Hekatonkheires Industries
#41 - 2014-04-04 16:18:43 UTC
Lidia Caderu wrote:
If CCP will not do something, i'll simply stop playing.


Or you could by a 60-day time code block through your favorite Eve website, fly to Jita, convert your time codes to Plex, sell the Plex for 1.4 billion isk and invest that isk into something that'll improve your gameplay and current isk per hour ratio. At the same time, you'll be supporting a site or Eve blogger you enjoy.




Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2014-04-05 12:44:47 UTC
i think plex was added to market so it would be much easier ad faster to trade then on forums, so way not to keep the trade of this item on market but more like forum like ...
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#43 - 2014-04-11 09:43:53 UTC
any one who thinks that plex price will get lower is delusional.

as long it's posible to manipulate the price people will do it ... way not to leave the item for it's natural flow ...


insted of leaving it to people to have fun with it, puling the proce to xxx%!


we can see it right now, 750m+ !? lol it use to be much more stable when it was on forums.
right afer it was on eve market the price was bulting up, much faster.

and now it's racnig to 1b ^^

make people wona put the plex on the market to sell it or use it, insted to stack pile it to make money, bacause you can be sure the price will keep building up!
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2014-04-11 10:04:16 UTC
if nothing will be done it will end like crisis in real world, when greede bankers were steling (and they still do) messed up iceland and the rest of the world.

same will be here, part of the player base will be lost!

so there will be no one to by the plex, only the people that manipulate the price!!! Cry
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#45 - 2014-04-20 20:11:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Hairpins Blueprint
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#46 - 2014-04-20 20:56:05 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
What possible purpose could this serve?


So we can prove for the millionth time in human history that price controls lead to disaster.

there is price controlling going on already. Had a guy in my incursion fleet sell plex on the market and had multiple convos from multiple people wanting him to buy plex every month for them buy 10% less than market so they can move and mark up the prices.

also just look at ship prices with the expansion in summer

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

sci0gon
Kaira Innovations
#47 - 2014-04-20 21:31:19 UTC
Skydott wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

just a matter of time it goes above billion
Humble yourself

BEST way stop speculation remove plex from game and close this donate shop. Reduce subscribe payment and remove plex . Rise number of playing ppl.


removal of plex = less isboxers which would be a win in my eyes considering mmorpg's are supposed to be games you play with others not for those who want to play with themselves. It would also mean less players playing the game since theres a large portion of the player base from what I have seen who cringe at the thought of paying with real cash to play or begging their parents to pay for them.

lower sub costs would be nice and help a few more to come and play however a certain point comes with that and that is the players mentality and if they believe they are getting enjoyment out of the game to warrant continuing to pay the sub fee.


Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
there is nothing wrong with the plex it self, it's very cool. if it would be removed from the game i guess i and a loot of other people would stop playing the game.

and the RMT market would come back in full force.


I have no idea why you believe that however you'd be wrong RMT mostly occurs in games that are f2p which also offer the pay2win style of play that a lot of players cry about which is why that market is there and RMT sellers take advantage of people like that cos they want to be just as special. This game is over 10yrs old now and the only way RMT ever came into this game was due to CCP's ability to throw out free trials however with the removal of that CCP would be cutting off their own hands so that would never happen. This game has more than enough easy ways to make isk in the game even for beginners.

with regards to the ops request no ty all items should be able to be bought or sold exactly as they are currently.
Yolo
Unknown Nation
#48 - 2014-04-20 22:36:20 UTC
Do some research before you talk about PLEX prices.
Only two weeks ago the prices peaked at around 750m Isk.

The price is now around 720m Isk.

You can expect the prices to drop for some time, as the new ship painting blueprints are no longer new.
Also people was able to buy Fan Fest packages with PLEX, this had an impact on the supply/demand as rich EVE players converted their Isk into a party on top of the world.

I'd say prices will go down around 650 before if lands and normal inflation takes a hold of it again.

- since 2003, bitches

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#49 - 2014-04-20 22:59:21 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Quite a few players both pay a monthly fee (one off) and every couple of months buy a plex for that month (with ISK), if it becomes every 3 or even every 4 they have to wait for a free month, they will give up and CCP loses the money they would pay on the paying months.

The rise of plex, will hurt the bottom line, but it is not through rage quitting or big decisions, it is more where people just can't be arsed. I am not sure that CCP realised the size and importance of the "Can't be Arsed ™" mechanic. There's Black White and "Can't be Arsed ™" most decisions in this world fall into this category.Lol

There is no such thing as a free market (as exists in the innocents imagination) every government (other than failed states) implements protection against monopolies and cartels, in the currency markets, when speculators try to drive a currency wildly up, they get Massively burnt when the central bank floods the market to bring it back. (usually it is the innocents following the Large speculators as they have already profit taken)
Only when the speculators hold more funds than the central bank (as in developing countries) can this get wildly out of balance.

CCP employ a professional economics expert. you would need to be a swivel eyed loony to believe that this is a bubble that will never burst.

And when it happens and the price drops to around 400 a cry Of HTFU and cheers will resound to the wail of tears from the losers. But the Big Speculators will have already got out and it will be those with a few Plex, Hoping to get rich quick,who get burnt.Sad

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2014-04-20 22:59:56 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
What possible purpose could this serve?


So we can prove for the millionth time in human history that price controls lead to disaster.

there is price controlling going on already. Had a guy in my incursion fleet sell plex on the market and had multiple convos from multiple people wanting him to buy plex every month for them buy 10% less than market so they can move and mark up the prices.

also just look at ship prices with the expansion in summer
that's not price control. Price control is when someone (CCP) steps in and manipulates price with methods other people don't have.

And your confusing summer ship changes with speculation. That is not price control. It's perceived supply and demand.
Psychoactive Stimulant
#51 - 2014-04-21 01:56:22 UTC
Maybe the prices are going up cause people are making those fancy new skinned ships...

Maybe the prices are going up cause people can train their alts on the same account...

Maybe the idea of supply and demand are actually working as intended.

Take off your tin foil hat. There are no speculators. Big smile
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2014-04-24 09:49:47 UTC
Yolo wrote:
Do some research before you talk about PLEX prices.
Only two weeks ago the prices peaked at around 750m Isk.

The price is now around 720m Isk.

You can expect the prices to drop for some time, as the new ship painting blueprints are no longer new.
Also people was able to buy Fan Fest packages with PLEX, this had an impact on the supply/demand as rich EVE players converted their Isk into a party on top of the world.

I'd say prices will go down around 650 before if lands and normal inflation takes a hold of it again.



ye ye ... look the price over the year, there allways was some drop, and right after price startd climbing up 2x the fall
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2014-04-24 09:53:25 UTC
Psychoactive Stimulant wrote:
Maybe the prices are going up cause people are making those fancy new skinned ships...

Maybe the prices are going up cause people can train their alts on the same account...

Maybe the idea of supply and demand are actually working as intended.

Take off your tin foil hat. There are no speculators. Big smile



the price was roling up very fast way before those changes got into the game ...
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-04-24 10:08:15 UTC
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control?

In a game, yes.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2014-04-24 10:19:59 UTC
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
Rowells wrote:
bad idea is bad. Just because plexes are getting more expensive doesn't mean we need to control the prices. It's the natural flow and ebb.

Also means no more 50 plex noobship kills either



can agree, would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control?



Youa re delusional. No one not even that rich russian excentric dude can control the plex market by sheer "havign money" Why because plex supply is infinite!

CCP will not deny selling you a plex just because other guy just bought 100. HTat means there can only be shortage of plex by excessive demand compared to supply, not by someone cornering the market.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Ren Coursa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-04-24 10:31:18 UTC
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
Rowells wrote:
bad idea is bad. Just because plexes are getting more expensive doesn't mean we need to control the prices. It's the natural flow and ebb.

Also means no more 50 plex noobship kills either



can agree, would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control?


Not to bum people out but in a hundred years time, yes it's probably going to be very natural at this pace. At least in the middle east and Africa.

But as to the point of the thread i don't think plex should be treated differently. Everything comes into the game through ccp either from their shop or from a magically respawning Asteroid.

Time is money. Either you spend an hour mining the asteroid or you spend an hour at your job and buy a plex. Same result.
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