Player Features and Ideas Discussion

My proposed change to tackle would be based on ship size, the larger the pointing ship the longer the point/scram range. 

Something alon the lines of:
small warp disrupter II 16 km point str 1
small warp scrambler II 6 km point str 2

Medium warp disrupter II 24km point str 1
medium warp scrambler II 9km point str 2

large warp disrupter II 40 km point str 2
large warp scrambler II 15 km range point str 3


Probably include stasis webbifiers in this change as well.

Fitting and cap for medium modules is simulair to the current usage. Small's use less cap+fitting while large mods use more. use shield boosters as a compairison. 

In an ideal world battle cruizers / destroyers could either use oversided tackle or tank while friggates and crjizers need fitting comppromises to fit either oversized tank or over sized tackle.

The reasoning is thati feel that bigger/havier ships should have more holding power then smaller vessels at thd cost of more fitting and cap use. More fitting choices cant be bad :)

so you want to make it even easier to run away in a fast frigate? To catch an interceptor your going to need a high scan res really only able to be obtained by frigates and dessies. Killing the range at which you can scram/disrupt just makes it even harder to catch any fast frigate and nearly impossible to catch an interceptor, and there are plenty of players who are not happy with bubble immune ceptors. making them uncatchable would just make a lot of people unhappy.

The idea of basing the warp disruption mechanics on ship size has been proposed countless times. What you're proposing would bring absolutely nothing to the game except :
- Over-complexifying a perfectly fine working mechanic
- Nerf the tackling abilities of frigates (which is their primary role)
- Boost the tackling abilities of battleships (which is not something they're meant to be good at generally speaking)
- Make sure frigates can escape tackling ranges even more easily since the only things able to tackle them consistently will be less good at tackling
- Make sure battleships can never ever ever ever get out of tackling range since their counterparts will have super long range 3str points

I don't think it's a good idea.

you think? this guy proposed a 40km long point.

seems to me like orbiting at 50km under loki links means newbies can easily kite. imb4 kestrel

If I was to do anything to scrams & points, it would be to introduce fall off.

Points start at 2str. Optimal of oh.... 2000. So to get the actual 2 strength you have to be inside even small neut & small smart bomb range.
Then Fall off of oh, 15k or something. You are now at 50% point strength.
Anything between rounds down if it's on it's own, but 2 points out at 9k still end up over 3 strength.
Now you can go out to say a maximum range of double fall off. Maybe hard locked? Maybe soft locked. At double fall off, you are at 0.5 strength. A single one will do nothing, but 2 will do something.

Scrams do the same kind of thing, but start at 3, lower range & lower fall off.

This then allows for true hero tackle to solo hold something with stabs by diving in real close and taking the neuts & smart bombs, or coward tackle to engage from long range. It also means one Interceptor kiting a squad would get pointed even if it was out in their double fall off range because the 0.5's would add up. (or 0.25 or whatever number it went to) While kiting a solo it wouldn't.

TLDR version. Make point strength relative to range from target, making it a little harder to hold someone at long range if you are solo, but a little easier if you are in a fleet, and no sudden Yes/No mechanics.

I like this **** frig pvp. It literally made this game worse.

however, ccp will never go for this as so many of their subscribers just fly frigs and being a business they wudnt want to lose them:P