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What if highsec was made 100% safe...
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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-04-22 19:31:09 UTC
Stand back while I snipe this page!

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-04-22 19:32:14 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Hey. You know better than this. Repent and say 20 Mail Harrys.


That only works when space fishing.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#23 - 2014-04-22 19:40:00 UTC
Ok, I will bite. I would only agree to this, if the area was for new players only. The point should be to make it so a new player has a chance to get their feet wet in eve. like only 4 systems be this way, the noob systems, and make it so not worth while to have another who is past, say , a month want to remain in that system.

As a concept, there is an easier way to protect noobs, but form an eve stand point, 100% safe high sec is ridiculous.

Its one of the reasons that I laugh at all the people who think another game will kill eve. Part of eve's biggest appeal is you are never really safe, ever. Its what makes eve's even boring aspects exciting. The risk is what gives humans the most thrill.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#24 - 2014-04-22 19:44:41 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Part of eve's biggest appeal is you are never really safe, ever. Its what makes eve's even boring aspects exciting. The risk is what gives humans the most thrill.



But even knowing that they are never really going to be safe, they still sub, and then cry for 100% safety (but still have 100 to 1000% of the rewards).

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-04-22 19:48:37 UTC
It's already there, it's called Singularity, it attracts an average of 100 players: http://eve-offline.net/?server=singularity

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#26 - 2014-04-22 19:52:28 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
What if there were a Free2Play option but you could only make a character with a certain amount of SP, limited skill choice and permadeath?


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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#27 - 2014-04-22 20:10:14 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??


Oh sweet madafrakking geezus on da stick, I would love permadeath in Eve. This is why I was hoping for WoD but well...

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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#28 - 2014-04-22 20:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Brewlar Kuvakei
To be fair it would be entertaining to see an area say 4 systems where PVP is simply not possible but only has access to 4 mining belts and 4 level 2 agents just to see what fail bears would stay within those 4 systems amongst the week 1 fresh starts.

We already have fail low sec pirate corps that are far too big for their boots bullying other players small gang solo low sec players. I'm talking about low sec pirate corps who can field 25 man + gate camps and fleets, wtf are they doing why not grab some SOV or do something more constructive?

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#29 - 2014-04-22 21:28:15 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Interesting. So people would rather have permadeath than a unprofitable 100% safe highsec?!!!?!??


Right up to the moment it was actually implemented. Then they'd squawk and want a 100% safe area to be in the moment there were actual consequences to losing a ship.

You'll find a lot of the forum talk big, but when it comes to dealing with consequences to their actions, they hide in station or play as alts for a few months until the heat dies down.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#30 - 2014-04-22 22:00:41 UTC
If highsec was 100% safe I would sit on jita 4-4 undock with an officer fitted ibis.

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#31 - 2014-04-22 22:09:35 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
So people would rather have permadeath

Actually, I would really like to see player-induced perma death (outside of biomassing and csm instigated bans) in some form.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#32 - 2014-04-22 22:24:49 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:

Actually, I would really like to see player-induced perma death (outside of biomassing and csm instigated bans) in some form.


I see what you did there... Big smile

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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#33 - 2014-04-22 22:26:37 UTC
SHAME ON YOU UAE!

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KnowUsByTheDead
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#34 - 2014-04-22 22:30:18 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
So people would rather have permadeath

Actually, I would really like to see player-induced perma death (outside of biomassing and csm instigated bans) in some form.


We already had that.

It was called the bonus round.

Have a look at my kb, and ponder how much SP I claimed.

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It's All About Me
#35 - 2014-04-22 22:31:58 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
What if highsec was made 100% safe... but the rewards in this completely 100% safe area were reduced to 1% or less of current Highsec levels?


I think that CCP would need to double the size of their server capacity to accommodate the massive influx of new players. Else time dilation would be so bad that time would not just slow, but actually reverse.

Mr Epeen Cool
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#36 - 2014-04-22 22:32:40 UTC
Tollen Gallen wrote:
SHAME ON YOU UAE!


Sorry, keyboard got Muffinjacked. What did he do now?

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#37 - 2014-04-22 22:34:52 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Tollen Gallen wrote:
SHAME ON YOU UAE!


Sorry, keyboard got Muffinjacked. What did he do now?



For shame, UAE.

Using Tollen's known love of the Muffin race to troll.

Sad

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Enaris Kerle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-04-22 22:40:22 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
I'm talking about low sec pirate corps who can field 25 man + gate camps and fleets, wtf are they doing why not grab some SOV or do something more constructive?

Because taking and maintaining sov actually involves effort, even though most of the empire dwellers don't want to accept that. (For some reason people keep complaining about the land of milk and honey that nullsec apparently is, but don't want to go there themselves. Odd, that.) Maybe you could try steering them in the direction of NPC null though? It's basically the same experience, except you can't lock people out of station.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-04-22 23:01:27 UTC
Put the 100% safe noob systems in the middle of null and oddly you may actually be on to something.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#40 - 2014-04-22 23:07:23 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
What if there were a Free2Play option but you could only make a character with a certain amount of SP, limited skill choice and permadeath?

For the record, I would totally play a permadeath character in eve. Ganking would be much more fun knowing that that maller on the station actually matters.



It would be kind of cool, a "live fast die young" option. Maybe even have players who are "non capsuleers" meaning at best you can fly a frigate.

But that's practically a whole new game.

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