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Exploration Sucks

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Jenny Aakiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-01 07:53:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenny Aakiwa
I have literally scanned over 2 hours to find all 40 sites of WH Space and only to find out that there is only 1 WH is open.(Trying to get out of nullsec) Since the expansion was released, exploration is made next to impossible for majority of my corp and for me. So my corp and I agreed that it is messed up that expansion make a lot of things worse. Evil So I offer a few solutions:

1. Make sites more easy to identify AKA don't require Probe strength to identify the category. (make scanning harder if you have to, this is pretty useful!)
2. Reverse exploration changes to previous setting before the expansion (If you must...)
3. Increase probe strength to be 3 times as strong. (If you don't like the "Show Category on All Sites" then do this.)

Now I go and logoff, because I have a freaking headache and am pissed off about it.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-12-01 08:28:55 UTC
What did they change with the last expansion? Aside from adding filter categories and new sites, everything else seems the same to me
Mart Allini
Lead Farmers
#3 - 2011-12-01 09:09:47 UTC
They didn't change anything with regards to scanning in Crucible apart from allowing you to filter on different types.

If it takes you two hours to scan down 40 sites(presumably not locking them all to 100% if you are specifically looking for wormholes), then you are doing something wrong.
Tess La'Coil
Messerschmitt Vertrieb und Logistik
#4 - 2011-12-01 11:33:26 UTC
If you are finding 40 sites in one null system you're doing it wrong. When searching for WH's only enable "Cosmic Signature" checkbox.
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Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#5 - 2011-12-01 12:44:52 UTC
You sound kinda not so smart.

Maybe you should do missions or mine ore or something.
LuckyChoosenOne
Virtual Democracy
#6 - 2011-12-01 13:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: LuckyChoosenOne
I agree with Jenny - probing sucks a lot, probes stenght is reduced, i got maxed skill and i cant probe signature cuz when i reduce range of probes it always disapear, and it doesent metter if i use 7 probes i got always the same this game starting to sucks more and more from day to day
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#7 - 2011-12-01 13:37:15 UTC
LuckyChoosenOne wrote:
I agree with Jenny - probing sucks a lot, probes stenght is reduced, i got maxed skill and i cant probe signature cuz when i reduce range of probes it always disapear, and it doesent metter if i use 7 probes i got always the same this game starting to sucks more and more from day to day


So leave.

Biomass your character.

Its unlikely anyone will notice.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-12-01 13:54:28 UTC
LuckyChoosenOne wrote:
I agree with Jenny - probing sucks a lot, probes stenght is reduced, i got maxed skill and i cant probe signature cuz when i reduce range of probes it always disapear, and it doesent metter if i use 7 probes i got always the same this game starting to sucks more and more from day to day


Scanning seems to work very close to normal for me, although how probes are shown in the scanning screen has changed making altering their exact location harder and the sites have been divided to new signal strength categories or new sites made for them. What you experience seem like a bug to me though and I haven't experienced anything like that after the expansion. I'm ignoring all the other possible explanations for it, since a maxed out prober should know how to do it properly by now.
Jenn Makanen
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-12-01 14:16:20 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
LuckyChoosenOne wrote:
I agree with Jenny - probing sucks a lot, probes stenght is reduced, i got maxed skill and i cant probe signature cuz when i reduce range of probes it always disapear, and it doesent metter if i use 7 probes i got always the same this game starting to sucks more and more from day to day


Scanning seems to work very close to normal for me, although how probes are shown in the scanning screen has changed making altering their exact location harder and the sites have been divided to new signal strength categories or new sites made for them. What you experience seem like a bug to me though and I haven't experienced anything like that after the expansion. I'm ignoring all the other possible explanations for it, since a maxed out prober should know how to do it properly by now.



That'll be another person ignoring the mention in other threads that filtering has been implemented. and you have to tell your filter which signatures you want to see.
Bohiam
Age of Discovery
#10 - 2011-12-01 14:26:12 UTC
I explore and probe a lot and have not noticed any difference at all apart from the ones listed for change from CCP.

5nipe
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-12-01 14:35:14 UTC
It looks very suspicious. After reading OP I went to low sec (approx an hour after DT) and scanned dozen systems where something is up for sure like radars or magneto. All those 11 systems dead empty,now, except 9 WH I have found. In last system I had 5 signatures, 3 of them were 6/10 strength, and my first thoughts were that someone complains on forum again. Nops, all 5 were wormholes. Very strange.

Filters. I have no idea why this filters introduced in first place. You still need to scan signature to 25% to make this filters work anyway. And if you don't ignore signature and after moving probes, signature strength lower than 25%, sig appear on the list again. After reading the patch notes I wondered if this filter makes signatures exception without further scanning, but after testing it on TestServer, I just made "on" on all options and forgot about existence of this future. I don't know, may be someone will find it useful, but for me it is just yet another confusion options.

Yet another little change. I haven't never, ever seen so many "drone" sites in Caldari hi sec. May be I just unlucky with particular area?

Flakey Foont
#12 - 2011-12-01 15:13:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
LuckyChoosenOne wrote:
I agree with Jenny - probing sucks a lot, probes stenght is reduced, i got maxed skill and i cant probe signature cuz when i reduce range of probes it always disapear, and it doesent metter if i use 7 probes i got always the same this game starting to sucks more and more from day to day



IN THE PATCH NOTES it says you will need to redo the filters. So if you are looking for radar and it is not checked in the filter, it will disappear at 25%.

Is that easy enough cuz?


P.S. If anything exploration is better. I made a load of isk last night.
Scortched Merc
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#13 - 2011-12-01 16:33:52 UTC
I think everyone should just stop exploring... there is nothing to find!

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SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#14 - 2011-12-01 19:43:43 UTC
Scortched Merc wrote:
I think everyone should just stop exploring... there is nothing to find!





THIS.Smile
Your Messiah
ObamaNation Inc
#15 - 2011-12-01 20:55:52 UTC
Scortched Merc wrote:
I think everyone should just stop exploring... there is nothing to find!


Seriously. I only found two Angel 3/10's last night. Both only had a Domi frig which dropped tags, ammo and Domination Stasis Webifiers. I hate when expansions break stuff.
Celery Man
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2011-12-01 22:16:19 UTC
This is why I hate being on holidays when expansions come out, I lose out on harvesting massive sums due to the ineptitude of those unable to adapt or read properly :(
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-12-01 22:38:51 UTC
Confirming nothing changed about exploration or scanning with this expansion, just the filters
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Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-02 00:01:39 UTC
last sites i have tryed to do a a wild tengu usually appears and i rage quit for the day. Other than that **** exploration.

I have more space likes than you. 

Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#19 - 2011-12-02 00:12:42 UTC
Dbars Grinding wrote:
last sites i have tryed to do a a wild tengu usually appears and i rage quit for the day. Other than that **** exploration.


tengus drop the best loot

you just have to 1 or 2 shot them

gl hf
tofucake prime
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#20 - 2011-12-02 01:51:01 UTC
Jenny Aakiwa wrote:
I have literally scanned over 2 hours to find all 40 sites of WH Space and only to find out that there is only 1 WH is open.(Trying to get out of nullsec) Since the expansion was released, exploration is made next to impossible for majority of my corp and for me. So my corp and I agreed that it is messed up that expansion make a lot of things worse. Evil So I offer a few solutions:

1. Make sites more easy to identify AKA don't require Probe strength to identify the category. (make scanning harder if you have to, this is pretty useful!)
2. Reverse exploration changes to previous setting before the expansion (If you must...)
3. Increase probe strength to be 3 times as strong. (If you don't like the "Show Category on All Sites" then do this.)

Now I go and logoff, because I have a freaking headache and am pissed off about it.

A better solution would be for you and then majority of your corp to stop playing. Nothing is broken and all of your "fixes" are dumb.
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