Ships & Modules

I'm not sure why they nerfed the TE so badly. From what I understand it was due to so many complaints about the Macharel being OP with its bonuses.

Don't you DARE touch my Moros

The Moros is almost garuanteed to be nerfed. It is way too good. It's weak points (tank and cap) don't even come close to making up for the huge lead it has in damage.

Make Blaster capless!

then ask for boost dont ask blasters to be nerfed

Just curious - what do those charts looks like when you add 1 and 2 ("nerfed") TEs to both weapon systems? What about the pre-nerf TEs?

I dont know the answer, but I would guess it favors the minmatar systems by a good margin. A lot with the pre-nerf TEs, and some smaller amount with the post-nerf TEs. Again - this is just a guess.

ACs/TEs were a large part of the term/era of "Winmatar." At least that is how I remember it. Its been a good while since the discussions, but IIRC, TEs were nerfed because ACs were not a bad choice in any close range situation. Blasters did far more paper DPS, but because they had tracking issues close in (which makes no sense, but its true) and couldnt swap ammo quickly, they were really hard to justify over ACs except in rare situations (station and gate games, stationary dps situations, etc). AC actual applied DPS was far better in most situations. I still believe this to be true, but far less so than before.

I flew almost exclusively Gallente before, and now since the change I fly both Gallente and Minmatar. Both have numerous uses now. The same was not true before. I really think the current meta is the most balanced I have seen in Eve since 2007 (Ive taken a lot of extended breaks though). Literally all races have numerous useful ships. At least on the sub-cap level. I dont fly caps, so I cant comment on XL turrets.

True but with TC's you can chose between range, tracking speed, or a mixture of both. Also the little bit of cap they use is trivial on a battleship. I guess if you're getting neuted by a Bhaalgorn the TE would be superior but at that point you probably have other more pressing issues... Like lack of a tank and trying to get your pod out

Tracking enhancers were easier to deal with on shield tank ships. I'm not saying they didn't need adjustment but CCP nerfed them so badly they're not worth using anymore. The only complaints I've heard was with the Machariel but that was because it has a 50% falloff bonus

^this.
ACs are in a bad place not because of the weapon system but because CCP swung the pendulum way too far in their balance passes.
minmatar ships used to be the best in all sub BS classes by a pretty wide margin and theyre now the worst by an almost equal margin because CCP buffed everything else and left them as is/nerfed them to the ground (looking at you hurricane, I miss you).

if you look at your charts, the curves of the projectile ammos are fine, they just start at a much lower point.

The problem is that the Moros has ****** range for some reason...

The TE nerf was a little less than logical. The reasons were sound but the execution was a little odd. When TEs were boosted to their pre-nerf values they were an underused module, the boost was designed to counter the problem - the current nerf not only counters the boost but (as I recall) reduces them to below their pre-boost value.

XL Blasters were boosted along with XL ACs. Prior to the change the Moros was all but useless for its intended purpose as, even loading Iron, they were in deep falloff even pressed right up against a large POS shield. Siege Moros were better off running rails... XL ACs weren't much better off at the time. The boosts to XL Blasters and ACs made it possible to remove the Moros' drone bay and reduced the pressure towards Revelations.

The TE nerf was severe, probably too severe, but I would not suggest that they broke XL weapons...

Medium ACs really are kinda crap. Their main advantage is their selectable damage type... Which gets completely thrown out the window in practice, simply because they only operate better than Blasters deep in Barrage range, which limits you to explosive damage, which in turns tanks your damage far, far below what it would be if you were using Lasers or Missiles.

Honestly, i think Point Range itself is part of the problem. I've thought for a while that tackle modules should be revamped to be more like other Ewar, with optimal and falloff ranges where their effect diminishes.