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200 Billion (with a B) Star Systems?

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-04-22 18:28:16 UTC
G'rudge wrote:
How come EvE can't have 200 BILLION Shocked


... because there are vast areas of space in this game that see very little, sometimes NO pilot activity at all ?

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Serene Repose
#22 - 2014-04-22 18:33:41 UTC
Why can't people spare us these dumb - with a D - ideas?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-04-22 18:34:56 UTC
Cpt Swagg wrote:
500k players you say? Divide that by 200 billion, then count how many jumps would we be apart from each other if every single one of us was alone in 1 system.


0.0000025 jumps. Thats pretty compact man. I think your math is off a tad.

(hint, its 2x10^11 / 5x10^5 = 400,000 jumps, not 5x10^5/2x10^11)

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#24 - 2014-04-22 18:44:21 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Thank you for properly calling them "star systems" and not "solar systems",
like even CCP is doing wrongly.


Not gonna get into an argument with you, I think you're rather funny on these here forums and what not but;

'Solar System' or 'Planetary System' is the correct terminology to use when the system has non-steller objects in orbit as well as Steller...

A 'Star System' or 'Steller System' has only steller orbitals. For example, a star orbiting another star...

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Solecist Project
#25 - 2014-04-22 19:02:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Seraph Essael wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Thank you for properly calling them "star systems" and not "solar systems",
like even CCP is doing wrongly.


Not gonna get into an argument with you, I think you're rather funny on these here forums and what not but;

'Solar System' or 'Planetary System' is the correct terminology to use when the system has non-steller objects in orbit as well as Steller...

A 'Star System' or 'Steller System' has only steller orbitals. For example, a star orbiting another star...

Thanks for not dismissing me as a stupid troll.
Shows you can put thought into something.

I can agree on "planetary systems", but don't understand why it could be called "solar".

Sol is the name of our star and the solar system therefore is the system of Sol.

So why would other systems be ever called solar systems
when their stars definitely aren't Sol?

That doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah I never actually looked into it and just took it as it is,
simply for plain logical reasons.

Enlighten me! (wrecking shot hits pun doing c damage)

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Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-04-22 19:05:52 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Thank you for properly calling them "star systems" and not "solar systems",
like even CCP is doing wrongly.


Not gonna get into an argument with you, I think you're rather funny on these here forums and what not but;

'Solar System' or 'Planetary System' is the correct terminology to use when the system has non-steller objects in orbit as well as Steller...

A 'Star System' or 'Steller System' has only steller orbitals. For example, a star orbiting another star...

Thanks for not dismissing me as a stupid troll.
Shows you can put thought into something.

I can agree on "planetary systems", but don't understand why it could be called "solar".

Sol is the name of our star and the solar system therefore is the system of Sol.

So why would other systems be ever called solar systems
when their stars definitely aren't Sol?

That doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah I never actually looked into it and just took it as it is,
simply for plain logical reasons.

Enlighten me! (wrecking shot hits pun doing c damage)


Im just guessing, but maybe because its just being frequently used as such, or used as a reference, Solar system explains in the name that another system functions just like ours.
Salvos Rhoska
#27 - 2014-04-22 19:19:13 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
So why would other systems be ever called solar systems
when their stars definitely aren't Sol?


....

I once met a girl at a bar, who thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.
She said she knew, cos she could see the Sun passing by in the sky, everyday.
She was hot, but dangerously stupid and uneducated.

You aren't hot.

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Bael Malefic
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-04-22 19:21:26 UTC
What if exploration in EVE included something to explore...what a thought!
Solecist Project
#29 - 2014-04-22 19:27:31 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
So why would other systems be ever called solar systems
when their stars definitely aren't Sol?


....

I once met a girl at a bar, who thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.
She said she knew, cos she could see the Sun passing by in the sky, everyday.
She was hot, but dangerously stupid and uneducated.

You aren't hot.

Yeah and I'm not dangerously stupid and uneducated either ...
... and I understand why you left that part out.

Would completely destroy your image if you admitted it. :)

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Silky Cyno
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-04-22 19:34:30 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
200 Billion systems = Imperial **** ton of renters.








They could get a 2 for 1 deal
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-04-22 19:34:32 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Why can't people spare us these dumb - with a D - ideas?


Can you come up with better ideas?

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#32 - 2014-04-22 19:43:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Solecist Project wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Thank you for properly calling them "star systems" and not "solar systems",
like even CCP is doing wrongly.


Not gonna get into an argument with you, I think you're rather funny on these here forums and what not but;

'Solar System' or 'Planetary System' is the correct terminology to use when the system has non-steller objects in orbit as well as Steller...

A 'Star System' or 'Steller System' has only steller orbitals. For example, a star orbiting another star...

Thanks for not dismissing me as a stupid troll.
Shows you can put thought into something.

I can agree on "planetary systems", but don't understand why it could be called "solar".

Sol is the name of our star and the solar system therefore is the system of Sol.

So why would other systems be ever called solar systems
when their stars definitely aren't Sol?

That doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah I never actually looked into it and just took it as it is,
simply for plain logical reasons.

Enlighten me! (wrecking shot hits pun doing c damage)


That pun!!!

Yes, you are correct, Sol is the name of the Star which we orbit and Solar was derived from that name. But you have to remember that Sol was named in Latin way back when Ptolemaic theory was widely accepted. (Ptolemy's model being the sun at the centre followed by the spheres of the planets and then the sphere of the fixed stars).

Copernicus came in during the 1500's (if I remember correctly) and his theory paved the way for the modern, accepted model of The Solar System, believed to be the only Solar System at the time, we knew at this point there were other Stars and such, but didn't know that they were in orbits in systems much like our own.

I'm not going to get into it as I am on my phone at the moment, but long story short, The Solar System is our Solar System, where A Solar System is used to describe a system that has a model similar to ours.

Star Systems are simply systems that only have Stars in them, no other non-steller matter such as planets and satellites and there would be no belts either.

Hope that helps Smile

Edit: To be fair, you didn't need the history lesson, but it's sort of relevant and I rambled on haha

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#33 - 2014-04-22 19:51:59 UTC
Interesting game. Love the UI.

200 Billion systems - do they use gates? If there are no gates, then that's good. A day will come when reliance on gates for "little guys" will have to be removed from this game as a means of retaining subs.

When it's "in game XYZ we can go out there, play cat and mouse with another gang, kill and get killed, and have fun but in Eve it's all OMGWTF bubble camps, getting blops dropped, and only big wheels having freedom to move ridiculous resources instantly. I'm done here. " Then we will see system-to-system warp.

I would rather see this game improve than go elsewhere for some more interesting content.

Don't believe me? Heck next we might have bubble-immune frigates or something. Oh wait...

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#34 - 2014-04-22 19:53:36 UTC
Bael Malefic wrote:
What if exploration in EVE included something to explore...what a thought!




Careful there, buddy. You are expecting too much. You are not supposed to explore around here. You are expected to march to the nearest gate camp so someone does not feel bad about their stats.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#35 - 2014-04-22 19:55:16 UTC
There already are billions of billions of star systems in the New Eden Galaxy. What there aren't is billions of billions of binary star systems we can use stargates with.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

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G'rudge
Blood Coven One
#36 - 2014-04-22 20:05:23 UTC
Bael Malefic wrote:
What if exploration in EVE included something to explore...what a thought!


Exactly.

.
Solecist Project
#37 - 2014-04-22 20:51:47 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Thank you for properly calling them "star systems" and not "solar systems",
like even CCP is doing wrongly.


Not gonna get into an argument with you, I think you're rather funny on these here forums and what not but;

'Solar System' or 'Planetary System' is the correct terminology to use when the system has non-steller objects in orbit as well as Steller...

A 'Star System' or 'Steller System' has only steller orbitals. For example, a star orbiting another star...

Thanks for not dismissing me as a stupid troll.
Shows you can put thought into something.

I can agree on "planetary systems", but don't understand why it could be called "solar".

Sol is the name of our star and the solar system therefore is the system of Sol.

So why would other systems be ever called solar systems
when their stars definitely aren't Sol?

That doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah I never actually looked into it and just took it as it is,
simply for plain logical reasons.

Enlighten me! (wrecking shot hits pun doing c damage)


That pun!!!

Yes, you are correct, Sol is the name of the Star which we orbit and Solar was derived from that name. But you have to remember that Sol was named in Latin way back when Ptolemaic theory was widely accepted. (Ptolemy's model being the sun at the centre followed by the spheres of the planets and then the sphere of the fixed stars).

Copernicus came in during the 1500's (if I remember correctly) and his theory paved the way for the modern, accepted model of The Solar System, believed to be the only Solar System at the time, we knew at this point there were other Stars and such, but didn't know that they were in orbits in systems much like our own.

I'm not going to get into it as I am on my phone at the moment, but long story short, The Solar System is our Solar System, where A Solar System is used to describe a system that has a model similar to ours.

Star Systems are simply systems that only have Stars in them, no other non-steller matter such as planets and satellites and there would be no belts either.

Hope that helps Smile

Edit: To be fair, you didn't need the history lesson, but it's sort of relevant and I rambled on haha
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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#38 - 2014-04-22 21:23:13 UTC
Cpt Swagg wrote:
I think it would be awesome to spend days and days if not weeks and weeks if not months without seeing anyone.


500k players you say? Divide that by 200 billion, then count how many jumps would we be apart from each other if every single one of us was alone in 1 system.




Which is why it would never happen. Not enough reason to PvP. I'm waiting for CCP to start REMOVING star-systems to force players to fight for ever dwindling resources, until the last guy with a non-noobship is swarmed under by noobships, and the server closes.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-04-22 21:49:50 UTC
you know it's not such a bad idea. You need ships and equipment, or cash, so you need to meet and trade with other players. People will naturally congregate together, as they do in Jita. Those who go far, far out still need to return every now and then with their loot. There's a natural limit on how much they can carry and therefore how often they need to do this. There's also a natural limit on range, therefore, because if you fly out for a month it's going to take you a risky month to return. Coveted systems would be those at the optimal range from the main hubs, and these would be the most fought over.

From a gameplay point of view procedurally generated systems tend to be different in the same way though, that is to say, they're all more or less the same. So I'm not sure saying there are 1,000,000 systems is any more impressive than 2 billion.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#40 - 2014-04-22 21:55:20 UTC
G'rudge wrote:


I know comparing this game to EvE is like comparing a stick figure to the Mona Lisa, but jeez if they can do it why cant WE?

It's the fault of the Jove for not being conquered by the Amarr thus resulting in the current slow expansionism of the empire and new gates. You went to Gallente public school, didn't you? What?

I'm in it for the money

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