EVE General Discussion

Oh man, you make this so easy I feel almost bad.

Did you miss the part where she got banned for it?

whether or not you like the CSM's are up to you, they are in essence politicians. However, the work that they HAVE done cannot be disputed, the development cycles of EVE, in my opinion, has NOT taken a turn for the worse. Judging by your employment history, you was not around when the CSM was instituted, However this could be an alt posting, which itself makes this entire discussion invalid. The CSM lets the developers know what the players (at large) want and need to be done to fix the game, bug fixes, new ships/modules/deploy-able equipments, etc.

You mentioned Incarna, and while I would like to see it finished as well, there has been more... pressing concerns with EVE than that, namely faction warfare, 0.0 sov stuffs, etc. I also find it amusing since the whole Incarna debacle was an instance where the CSM really shined above the rest of the mundane stuff they do. I could go into detail but you can read it Here,Here, and Here.

There are people, myself included, that would LOVE to see Incarna finished, and hopefully with the dissolution of WoD, that that team that presumably has experience working with human models in an MMO environment, along side the fact that CCP has multiple games working in the same world, makes Incarna more of a reality (at least in theory) than what had been previously possible.

Lastly, if you do not like the way CSM has worked in your eyes, while I have not been nor will ever have the desire to be a CSM, you could always run yourself.


Lastly, If you think CCP's apparent disregard for neutrality towards/against goons (regardless of what I think of them) is bad now, let me school you in the T20 incident (google it).

lol, so that is proof is it? That's proof that scamming and bonus rooms is "bad for the game"? Seriously, have you taken an extra few whacks from the stupid stick today? All that shows is that a CSM member publicly attacking someone can get them banned.

For Erotica 1's activity to be "bad for the game" you would have to conclusively show me how the game was negatively impacted, and why it's not negatively impacted now, even though the actual activities that he was banned for still happen.

Jeez folks, do we have to run the whole Ero saga yet again?

If he got a perma ban he will not be back, if he got a temporary ban, he probably will come back.

Either way, time will tell.

Move along there, pretty please.

Well it kinda is, if you are using it as a fact to back up your claims.

So.... thats not you in the first quote then? Making a false assertion?

Cool story, bro

We don't want to destroy THE game, we want to destroy YOUR game. There is a difference.

You realize that the CSM is merely an advisory organ, right? They don't get to make any decisions, they can merely advice CCP in what would be the best course of action to take.

CCP has a vision for a certain change and within that vision the CSM then advises on specifics and possible improvements. If anything the CSM improves ideas by CCP that would otherwise be poorly implemented because CCP seems to sometimes lack an understanding as to how their game is played (outside of areas where they themselves play).

So GTFO.

Yes, you do need to explain that when you are stating that as proof that scammers and bonus rooms are bad for the game, especially when both of those things still exist in EVE.

And the CSM never stated a damn thing. One CSM member stated something, which isn't "The CSM". As for the community, it's only a vocal minority on either side, the bulk of the community don't care either way, so quit acting like the whole of the community is like "Oh yeah, we super support this", it's pathetic. And CCP would state that wouldn't they. That;s what companies do. That doesn't make it truth. 2 days before they sacked a bunch of their staff and cancelled WoD they also stated that WoD wasn't being cancelled.

Nope

Im successfully claiming that when you say you know why Erotica was banned, you are lying because you CANNOT know.