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Arazu - FW frig/desy Farming Hunter

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Figaro Devars
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#1 - 2014-04-17 07:16:42 UTC
I want a cloaky ship that will allow me to hunt frigs and dessies in FW, and the Arazu has caught my fancy lately. I've read that the Arazu is generally not considered to have enough DPS to kill combat ships, but I'm thinking it should be able to at least kill frigs, so I'm wondering if any can give me advice on the following setup:

[Arazu, Arazu: FW Farming Hunter]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Warp Scrambler II
Warp Scrambler II
Sensor Booster II
Tracking Computer II
Patterned Stasis Web I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/69970-Arazu-FW-Farming-Hunter.html#ixzz2z7q9oBvX

The idea is that the tracking computer and metastasis rig will help to compensate for the fact that I'd be using medium rails instead of small in order to enjoy the ship bonus.
Camper101
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-04-17 07:24:57 UTC
Figaro Devars wrote:
I want a cloaky ship that will allow me to hunt frigs and dessies in FW, and the Arazu has caught my fancy lately. I've read that the Arazu is generally not considered to have enough DPS to kill combat ships, but I'm thinking it should be able to at least kill frigs, so I'm wondering if any can give me advice on the following setup:

[Arazu, Arazu: FW Farming Hunter]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Warp Scrambler II
Warp Scrambler II
Sensor Booster II
Tracking Computer II
Patterned Stasis Web I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/69970-Arazu-FW-Farming-Hunter.html#ixzz2z7q9oBvX

The idea is that the tracking computer and metastasis rig will help to compensate for the fact that I'd be using medium rails instead of small in order to enjoy the ship bonus.


You might wanna go double web, instead of tracking comp and use blasters, it's not like anything is going to run away with 2 Scrams and 2 Webs on it :P

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Figaro Devars
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#3 - 2014-04-17 08:18:07 UTC
Camper101 wrote:


You might wanna go double web, instead of tracking comp and use blasters, it's not like anything is going to run away with 2 Scrams and 2 Webs on it :P


Hmm, do you think I might want to fit more tank for a blaster fit though?
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-04-17 10:48:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Valleria Darkmoon
If you're hunting mostly FW plex farmers you have already won most of your fights if you can stop them warping off in the first place.

A lot of farmers are stabbed multiple times and cloaked, it will be a miracle if they can even lock you before they die even if you don't use damps. In fact just checking a FW farming catalyst I killed a while ago it would take over 10 seconds to lock your Arazu at no more than 11 km assuming he had max skills before he could apply his 182 dps, again assuming max skills. If you wanted to use a single damp you could have held it in web range and it would actually be impossible for him to lock you at all as you'd be out of range. ::Sadface:: Never give these ones credit for anything, they are shitfit and easily dispatched if you can hold them and they won't try to fight you unless they have no choice whatsoever. I killed that one in a dual scram Vengeance even though his primary damage type is aimed straight into my lowest resist, he didn't even get a lock before dying.

Legit players who are plexing because they are there looking for a fight and want to take advantage of a little bonus LP will fight for the plex will not cloak up or warp off when something hits the gate, the trick is that because you are cloaked it will be harder to read their reaction to your presence since you will presumably only decloak to activate the gate. Although in general faction frigates will want to fight, T1 frigs with more than 3 lows will almost certainly want to warp off. Also you will often have to sit on the outside of the plex since most frigs/destroyers will go to novice or small plexes which excludes you from entering and if the ship you are going after activates the gate before you scram them the gate will still work even if you scram them before they actually go into warp.

Long story short it might work but will probably be very frustrating for the number of times it fails versus the number of times it works. Additionally I have killed a solo Arazu in an Incursus before by getting under his guns and he was using blasters. An afterburning frigate can use a combination sig/transversal tank to get under even the godlike tracking of medium blasters even if you web it so tbh I would probably suggest small guns and an silly strong Arazu tank if you're really going to do this or a legit scram kiter or scram brawler might provide you with an embarassing mail.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.

Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-04-17 11:22:42 UTC
Don't forget the sensor recallibration (targeting) delay. I'm guessing most soft targets will just bolt while you are feverishly spamming the targeting hot key.
Degnar Oskold
Moira.
#6 - 2014-04-17 15:09:01 UTC
I've successfully done what you are trying to do with both a blasterArazu and a blaster Falcon.

The Arazu caught prey more successfully due to being able to achieve a higher scan resolution, but the Falcon had a broader engagement envelope. I preferred the Falcon.

To compensate for the recalibration delay you ideally need cloaking V trained, and you need to pick on victims who are sitting still in space. Approach them while cloaked, at 2km when you decloak, hit your overheated prop mod for one cycle. You should bump them and shift them just enough to be able to delay their warp till you lay on your scram.
Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#7 - 2014-04-17 22:27:56 UTC
Very low on tank, gonna have crazy cap issues keeping range and repping, slow, poor dps.

There are several frigates that would not have a problem dropping you fit like that.

I prefer scramming plated sensor damping arazu with a capacitor battery but even that is meh for the purpose.

You could have two asteros for the isk and have a lot more fun imo.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2014-04-17 22:35:40 UTC
[quote=Camper101][quote=Figaro Devars]I want a cloaky ship that will allow me to hunt frigs and dessies in FW, and the Arazu has caught my fancy lately. I've read that the Arazu is generally not considered to have enough DPS to kill combat ships, but I'm thinking it should be able to at least kill frigs, so I'm wondering if any can give me advice on the following setup:

[Arazu, Arazu: FW Farming Hunter]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

I'd use a rapier personally.

2× t2 web plus a long point. You'll have high frigate dps going straight downwiind and versatile damage profile for those "could be" fits like shield atrons.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-04-19 02:09:13 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
Don't forget the sensor recallibration (targeting) delay. I'm guessing most soft targets will just bolt while you are feverishly spamming the targeting hot key.


This also seems like a great way to kill a handful of unfitted T1 frigates and then get baited out and die as soon as someone competent realizes who you are and what you are doing.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#10 - 2014-04-22 10:05:54 UTC
Arazu, and honestly FR ships in general, are typically going to lend themselves to group fights a lot more than solo work, primarily because of the decloaking targeting delay everyone keeps bringing up.

It is absolutely stellar at dropping out of nowhere and changing the direction of an ongoing small-gang fight immediately, though, lots of fun with that.

If you're wanting to stealth-solo in FW I'd probably stick with just a T1 cruiser of whatever kind with a cloak you can online/offline in space to play the cloak game. The ability to warp in cloaked isn't much of an advantage solo with that targeting delay, everyone will just leave.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#11 - 2014-04-23 08:23:13 UTC
Get a Pilgrim, this is what it does best.

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