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PI taxes as stand are likely to cause a large, long term, undesirable effect on the player economy.

And, sadly, I say this while making a fortune on it, I want that to stop, because I can see where this is going to go badly for the game in general.



This new system effectively ends PI in high and low sec. Consider: the profit on a given, refined, PI item is approx 25%, assuming you bought the materials. Current taxes on these are now 22% to 50% of the market value. This means that at current time, you're looking at a 3% profit to a 25% loss. Even if you produce all your items on one planet, you're talking a 50% hit, and then another 10% or so sales tax and you see where this is going.

This means that PI in high sec is no longer profitable in any meaningful way. Even if you turn a profit in the long run, most of your isk becomes tied up in merchandise rather then as funds.

The fact that the new POCOs are destructible AND extremely expensive for what they do virtually guarantees that low sec griefers will make them priority targets (several groups are already recruiting for just this) particularly since they do not shoot back.

While it's nice to see WH and nullsec boosted, again, this is going to have a wide spread and long lasting destabilizing effect on the T2 market. And, by destabilizing, I mean 'Do you remember when HACs were 250m to half a billion each? and a T2 cargo expander was 100m? Welcome back.'

I mean, seriously, they told me you guys had an economist on staff. What, was he on vacation during the planning of this?

The best part is that the rate is tied to a possibly fluctuating number. This means that passing the cost along to the customer is counter productive, as rising prices will also increase the taxes you pay on it. Effectively, it fixes a percentage of profit you will be allowed to make. Hardly 'sandbox' there CCP.


Tier 3 battlecruisers:


I ran the numbers on the Oracle and compared it to the Armageddon, a personal favorite of mine, and compared them. Before anyone freaks out, I know that one is a BC and one a BB. The reason I did so is that the geddon was the closest in cost to produce to the Oracle.

DPS: Armageddon (marginally without drones)
Cost to produce: Armageddon is cheaper, despite the Oracle not requiring nox
Survivability: Armageddon has vastly better tank
Speed: Oracle without any fitting. Armageddon fitted.
Agility: Oracle.

So, I have to ask now, what's the point of these things? As snipers they're totally eclipsed by the Tier 3 battleships. Against other cruisers or battlecruisers they're eaten alive, even by non-damage boosted ships like the Prophecy. I suppose with the cap ship HP nerf they might work, but I'm not going to bet the farm on it, they use a heavy alpha strike, meaning the Amarr ships with heavy resist bonuses will shrug it off.

Other then looking good, I really don't see their role. They're unappealing to PvP compared with other BCs or BBs, due to cost to produce and fragility, and they don't have much of a role for mission runners or ratters due to their poor survivability.

Its not only PI which has changed a LOT.

The Drone Region got a real badly nerf. Doing Drone Hordes AGAIN was heavily nerfed, which cuts my income from those more then triple.
What i now do is adapt and go away from completly doing this and find something else.

This is not a small balance issue. Its really changed doing them with a income factor of 3 to 5.

I dont think someone will fight for them anymore. I am pretty sure lots of people will hate drone region now and better go somewhere else.

There is no instant isk. Loot is heavily reduced and you have the problem to convert drone loot into isk. And its not only the isk income in general, but people are leaving and i feel lonesome.

CCP, thank for for making the last-minute fix and having all ships jumping out going in the same direction. It's a little change but has a huge impact on immersion.

[quote=Marcus Aurelijus]Since MY thread was closed (i did NOT make mutliple topics, perhaps you want to adapt your text to properly reflect what you mean) . The reason I didn't post to this thread it is usually filled with either whining or fanboi-ism - I thought I'd make an actual contructive post instead - which gets locked. CCP has a hard time learning things don't they?

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1 lore reason:
Gallente are supposed to be the artistic heart and soul of the eve universe. They now fly the drabbest colored ships around. Doesnt feel gallente at all. I'm sure its possible to come up with a slightly 'darker' theme without taking it this far.

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I SWEAR TO GOD ON HIGH IF YOU ALL >CCP< MAKE GALLENTE SHIPS LIKE FUSHIA OR SOME OTHER WEARD COLOR,....IM TURNING AAMAR!

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more important - gameplay reason:
It looks ok enough in hangar but out in space i can hardly see my ship anymore. Thats annoying. I'm missing visual clues.
Its to dark to make out details. Even in the "sunny side" you can hardly see stuff. The bright new nebulas make this even worse,

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CCP,..you seriously could turn the brightness down just a touch on the new nebulas,...It is a bit hard to distinguish things while in flight. Besides that i love the new art work

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Fly safe

CCP,...asides from all the flamers,...honestly, this has been the absolutely best update yet,...my gratitude to you all,..

Thank you for a winter patch that will be honored for all times.

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I wonder if anyone else has run the actual numbers yet on a POCO.

at 300k isk profit per plant per day average, it would take 2 years to pay it off.

I see a lot of players whining about rising prices very soon.

As much as ii like all the new pretty colours and nebula, great job btw, but I am beginning to suspect (albeit I maybe wrong) that the differant racial space is actually colour co-ordinated, ie brown for Amarr, blue for caldari and i think minmatar is a reddish colour.

Am I right?

Because Im beginning to feel as though I am in a board game lol

Severely dislike that I can no longer right click a station in my assets or the corp office list and set the waypoint to be the system rather than the station itself. Please can we have the option of setting either the station OR the system.

Also, can we have back the option to right click a gate in the system and set the current system as a waypoint please.

Drahcir

Dear CCP

Fix the PI tax ( as in reduce it) or face a major problem.

1. we could unsub

2. we could stop making PI :)

3. we can continue to complain till you give up.

4. I heard new MMO are coming out....

5. We complain outside Eve on public forums, pass the bad word around CCP does not care about it players.

6. pass the cost to Eve members, ( this is what you want) all you want to do is sell GTC/Plex, so if you increase tax, you force ppl to buy plex for isk. ( rob from the poor)

Time to shoot the jita statue again....