EVE General Discussion

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Or some of us have a life and play casually and value $.50 a day really really really cheap for some random entertainment.

Honestly, if PLEX do hit a bill then I will find that deal very tempting.

I absolutely respect your right to buy the freighter by any means you wish, but would it not be more enjoyable to earn the isk to buy ships by in-game means?

I have a minimum level of isk I will not go below, so if I want a fancy ship I go and earn the isk for it in-game, my Kronos which is going rusty from lack of use for example.

Each to their own and all that, but my way seems to require more involvement with the game mechanics.

Oh and buying a ship with PLEX does not make you evil

Hmm yes well when you put the problem like that...

weren't those plex confiscated from botters?

I am still relatively new to this game, but I am by no means new to MMOs, been playing them and their respective precursors since before the existance of GUI based internet, hence I have a very good grasp and 1st hand experience on the multitude of F2P , sub and mixed business models.

So I would like to chime in on the whole PLEX pricing thing.

1. Plex is idiotically cheap. There are many people in this game (various gameplay vids available, google it yourselves) that can make in excess of 600 mil per hour with ease. They basically fart billions of ISK and sneeze out battleships and caps if they want to. To me a monthly sub like this should equate to at least 20 hours of gameplay, thats assuming 20 hours / week, which is mid range, not exactly hardcore, but not casual, leaving the remaining 3 weeks of the month to spend in the game spending the ISK elsewhere after earning the monthly sub.

There is no other sub-based MMO in the industry that lets people earn a monthly sub fee in little over an hour of gameplay.

2. Supply vs. Demand. Increased demand from more players becoming vet players and wanting to alt more, thus plex accounts, however, the extermination of new players to this game largely continues, ironically, by a lot of the same players. A large portion of the Plex on the market comes from new players wanting to give themselves a little "starter" boost once they subscribe and decide to stick it out. This supply however, is greatly diminished due to people opting not to stay in the game longterm due the older playerbase general attitudes along with other flaws and outdated game mechanics.



So its simple, fix some of the core / outdated issues which have been tackled long since around 1997 in other MMOs, get more new players to actually stay in the game to increase the Plex supply. Incidentally, CCP would win the most here I think with more players staying longterm, rather then anything else.

That's the story of EvE though, you want to eat your cake, they steal your cake, you whine about not having cake, they whine about you whining about not having cake, you get more cake, but it gets pied in Burn Jita.

Love it..

but basically Plex prices will always continue to rise no matter what..

The ability to make isk is so much more easier than it use to be, and as a result more people have more isk in their wallets.. The only ones who dont are the scrubs like me who dont do any PvE and just PvP and try to get buy by looting wrecks a bad month will see me buying a plex or two to cover some expencive losses that I may/will occur

What will happen if its not happening now is that the solo player will disappear or be forced too buy plex to get anywhere in Eve. As more people run 5-10-15-20 accounts and need plex to fund those accounts the player base will be limited and over saturated.

The player base then will be limited because with all those accounts and dozens of alts they no longer need to depend on others but with what they will find is that with so many doing the same thing and building/mining mission running items won't move.

And CCP will be forced too constantly make change to Eve to off load the staleness of Eve.