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GOON RTM + BOT

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-09-11 11:06:57 UTC
Wait what? Goons Read The Manual? Since when?
Johnson Johnson
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-09-11 11:31:08 UTC
look at all that GLORIOUS PROOF
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
#23 - 2011-09-11 12:21:11 UTC
Hmm, logical syllogism taken to the extreme eh?

Elusif is a goon
Elusif bots and rmts
therefor all goons bot and rmt

One man does not equal an alliance, besides DRF pet calling out rmters? Pot, kettle, etc.
Ineka
Doomheim
#24 - 2011-09-11 12:21:37 UTC
Basileus Volkan wrote:
Avon wrote:
Basileus Volkan wrote:
All Goons are actually just elaborate botting scripts made by the Drone Russians.

It's true.


I actually heard that bot scripts were pretty clever, unlike...


I was about to [strike] out the elaborate part but these forums don't have that functionality. Straight



What do you mean? -"unlike...goons?" Lol
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-09-11 13:12:19 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Ah yes lets trust everything that EN24 posts. Considering the accusations come from a disgruntled ex-member. Lets be honest EN24 will post anything as "news" weather its bullshit or not. Granted I'm not saying that Goons don't RMT, Iam just saying don't believe everything you read on EN24.



Is it supposed to rain today?

Don't ban me, bro!
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
#26 - 2011-09-11 13:43:58 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Ah yes lets trust everything that EN24 posts. Considering the accusations come from a disgruntled ex-member. Lets be honest EN24 will post anything as "news" weather its bullshit or not. Granted I'm not saying that Goons don't RMT, Iam just saying don't believe everything you read on EN24.



Is it supposed to rain today?



Partly cloudy with a chance of tears.
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#27 - 2011-09-11 14:08:07 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
mechtech wrote:
This crap makes me want to simply quit. Well actually, isk and ship loss is fairly meaningless compered to eve 3+ years ago, so 7 of my 8 accounts are already off-subscription.


First of all the story is on evenews24 which isn't a reliable source (especially when it comes to goon news).

Secondly, the source quoted in the story is a guy who was recently banned from the goonfleet.com forums and became a big babby about it so he's now in PL.

Two bad sources don't add up to the truth.


I couldn't tell you if RMT was taking place, but I can tell you 100% accuracy that bots were rampant in Goons when I was in Amok.
Hell, you think all those PL awox kills were against players?

As a matter of fact, some of the 'bot guys' were a bit 'disappointed' when CCP made the changes to the Officer belt rats, since they couldn't be solo'd anymore...This resulted in multiple tengu losses (not that this was a big deal)

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#28 - 2011-09-11 14:10:50 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:

Is it supposed to rain today?


It just might.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9M6B9MI-jY

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#29 - 2011-09-11 14:20:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
lol goons are what bob was a few years ago. Hows it feel to BE the enemy Mittans?

Magnelien wrote:
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
First of all the story is on evenews24 which isn't a reliable source (especially when it comes to goon news).



Well tbh considering how many goons work for ccp i cant hardly trust them either =/ after all its goons ...

but this botting does infact not surprise me at all. BUT this destroys the game for others and the past 2-3 years eve has been going down the drain and ive heard about more and more people quit due to all this.


Well, Goons DO wanna destroy YOUR game, theyre just proving the lie to part of that statement. They wanna destroy the game too just like everyone thought after all

Quote:
Wait wait, you're expecting an alliance, a player run org, to police for CCP? How is that the alliance's job? That's just a stupid expectation to have. If I know a guy evading taxes and getting away with it, I'm not going to go inform the authorities. I might not do it myself, but it's his choice and he knew the risks going into it.

I have no issue with RMTer's either, CCP does it in the form of plex and I really can't say I'm seeing much effort or money going into EVE lately. Don't see the point in buying ISK myself either, but hey, go for it if that's your thing. Not my problem, not my concern and I don't see how it's anyone elses but CCP's.


Quote:
The day CCP actually starts putting money back into the game will be the day we will recieve meaningful expansions with actual content.

Will be the day they QA team will actually have more than 2 people (or w/e)

Will be the day they will try and fix 6 year old bugs

Will be they day they actually pay money for some new server hardware

I can go on.

So while I couldn't give a damn about RMT either way. I don't really can't stand retards pushing the argument of "poor ccp doesn't get enough money from us we must pay them more and they'll make a better game for us"


These are why we have this issue. noone cares to report them, and theyre using that CCP isnt developing the game as an excuse to not give CCP the money. Thats crap.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Mikhail Glatinov
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2011-09-11 15:23:55 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Florestan Bronstein wrote:

I guess I must have imagined elusif advertising his services on your (and TEST's) jabber...

seriously, who are you trying to fool? it would be hard to be in the CF and not be aware of him.

Did you believe everything you saw in jabber? Because that would be hilarious.

Also, the OP posted this because he's mad about his supercaps getting nerfed and not because he cares about botting/RMT.



lol
you seem pretty mutch but hurt dude.

you mad??

besides, i cant even fly caps .. any of them :)
Mikhail Glatinov
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2011-09-11 15:28:01 UTC
El'Niaga wrote:
There are a few bots in every major alliance. It is not really possible to weed them out. Sadly many of these individuals are leaders of their alliances. But sometimes they get caught, its really only a matter of time before CCP catches someone in the goon leadership with their hand in the cookie jar.



dude ....... wake up and smell the roses!

Look who's working in ccp IA: goons
Majority of ccp devs are goons.
Heck, even most GMs are goons.
CSM chairman is goon leader, and strait out accused of been RMT (or RTM whatever)

Who the hell is left to look closely to goons dirty laundry? here's a tip: NO ONE
Mikhail Glatinov
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2011-09-11 15:32:17 UTC
and YES, CCP im accusing YOU, CCP, the corporation, of not been leading this game in a fair and honest way, im accusing YOU of favoring one entity in game in favor of others, when you should not be doing that at all, and YES, im accusing YOU CCP of LIEING to us, your player base.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#33 - 2011-09-11 15:33:41 UTC
Mikhail Glatinov wrote:
El'Niaga wrote:
There are a few bots in every major alliance. It is not really possible to weed them out. Sadly many of these individuals are leaders of their alliances. But sometimes they get caught, its really only a matter of time before CCP catches someone in the goon leadership with their hand in the cookie jar.



dude ....... wake up and smell the roses!

Look who's working in ccp IA: goons
Majority of ccp devs are goons.
Heck, even most GMs are goons.
CSM chairman is goon leader, and strait out accused of been RMT (or RTM whatever)

Who the hell is left to look closely to goons dirty laundry? here's a tip: NO ONE


Someone! Call the god damned batman.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-09-11 16:38:01 UTC
ban all botters k?

let mineral prices sky rocket i won't care they will adjust
let 0.0 alliances fall due to lack of income, i don't care new alliances will take over.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-09-11 16:51:12 UTC
Basileus Volkan wrote:
Avon wrote:
Basileus Volkan wrote:
All Goons are actually just elaborate botting scripts made by the Drone Russians.

It's true.


I actually heard that bot scripts were pretty clever, unlike...


I was about to [strike] out the elaborate part but these forums don't have that functionality. Straight

no it doesn't
yes it does.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#36 - 2011-09-11 17:31:22 UTC
Mikhail Glatinov wrote:


dude ....... wake up and smell the roses!

Look who's working in ccp IA: goons
Majority of ccp devs are goons.
Heck, even most GMs are goons.
CSM chairman is goon leader, and strait out accused of been RMT (or RTM whatever)

Who the hell is left to look closely to goons dirty laundry? here's a tip: NO ONE


Welcome to Goons Online
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"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-09-11 17:39:11 UTC
I wonder why they didn't just create an alliance called Shadow of xXGoonsXx and put in all the bots there.

Seriously. It's funny as hell watching a guy cussing the **** out of a couple individuals in Goons while being backed by a couple alliances botting with hundreds of botters spanning 6+ regions.

We can always do a little battle: You post all the botters you know, I post all the botters I know just in drone space (that's more than a hundred just in my current watchlist btw).
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-09-11 17:40:39 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:

Is it supposed to rain today?


It just might.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9M6B9MI-jY


You insidious bastard!

Don't ban me, bro!
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-09-11 18:49:13 UTC
Mikhail Glatinov wrote:
lol
you seem pretty mutch but hurt dude.

you mad??

besides, i cant even fly caps .. any of them :)

The fact that you are this mad about the supercap nerf before it even happens is awesome.
Lorren Canada
High is the Way - But all eyes are Upon the Ground
#40 - 2011-09-11 18:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lorren Canada
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
mechtech wrote:
This crap makes me want to simply quit. Well actually, isk and ship loss is fairly meaningless compered to eve 3+ years ago, so 7 of my 8 accounts are already off-subscription.


First of all the story is on evenews24 which isn't a reliable source (especially when it comes to goon news).

Secondly, the source quoted in the story is a guy who was recently banned from the goonfleet.com forums and became a big babby about it so he's now in PL.

Two bad sources don't add up to the truth.


Elusif was mentioned at Eve Vegas by the CCP guy incharge of security and banning botters/rmt'ers. So I'm going to take it pretty seriously.



Nobody denies Elusif was an RMTer, but the point is he's and angry goon who puts out a biased opinion to make his former alliance mates look bad and this opinion is published on an openly anti-goon site. Does that sound fair and unbiased to you?

Also, to all those who would be shocked at goons RMTing/Botting: when have goons ever been the champions of game rules? You look at their history throughout games, they've been known to break rules and hack accounts - so this is hardly some blatant hypocrisy or something. (Didn't they hack Second Life to make dicks rain from the sky?) I'm sure many goons don't care about RMT from some 'moral' standpoint, but only oppose it because it can give an unfair advantage ingame/hurt the game economy. I know that's where I stand.