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Hlokk Skoggangur
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2014-04-13 02:24:15 UTC
No learning skills, no endless mining in a bantam for Isk, t1 ships that can do stuff, instead of racing to get into a Merlin just to do level one missions? Yes I would start again and it would be so easy.

After all, getting alts up and running and useful with all the current set up is so very simple, even when you keep them financially separate from your main.
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#62 - 2014-04-13 02:31:49 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl?


I have created numerous accounts when I have been bored and played them for a couple of months. The last one I even skipped the career tutorials and started off with a rookie ship, civilian weapon, civilian mining laser and built up from there. That is how it was done when I started playing the game.

The thing is it only takes a couple of weeks to a month or so to be in a fitted (and tanked) mining barge or doing T3 missions in a BC/HAC even from that "low" start.

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#63 - 2014-04-13 04:02:26 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl?


I would just stop playing. I have almost 4 years of SP at near max efficiency. It would be painful to have to train all of that again.
ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#64 - 2014-04-20 18:08:27 UTC
1 post and a reply deleted fro trolling.

Please don't feed the trolls, people!

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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#65 - 2014-04-20 18:09:27 UTC
1 post removed for trolling.

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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2014-04-20 19:15:20 UTC
I would stop playing.

I have too many memories wrapped up around my characters to have to start again and ~mask~ the older memories with newer versions.
Obunagawe
#67 - 2014-04-20 20:23:55 UTC
Would not play. The only thing that keeps me in EVE is the fact that it is "free" and that my isk multiplies with no significant effort.
Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2014-04-20 23:03:00 UTC
I would put more effort in the social and political aspect of Eve. Blogging, sharing knowledge and experiences, and showing others about how passionate I really am about the game. Basically what I have started doing lately, but much earlier.

I would do more focused training. My first two years were all over the place but mainly Caldari and Industrial which not bad in itself, was very inefficient for a long time. I would also go to low/null straight away and solo/small gang roam with no eff's given.

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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#69 - 2014-04-20 23:16:11 UTC
I would not, simple as that, my investment in my sp/skills/stuff is why i'm still here, take it away and i'm gone tbh
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#70 - 2014-04-20 23:33:11 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Any veteran who says he would quit the game if required to start over has no right to tell a new player to enjoy playing the game in his present situation.

I look forward to the answers provided by the old vets to your question.



Not really, I've done it once, so would not repeat it, doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy it the first time.



Wouldn't really have changed anything, Tal's done a bit of most things.. some more than others... so no.

Tal

Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
#71 - 2014-04-20 23:42:35 UTC
Roll the game back 10 years and I might be willing, but with its current state of affairs and competition coming.... NO WAY!
Seraphi Nephalis
Seraphi Nephalis Corporation
#72 - 2014-04-20 23:46:37 UTC
See, to me the responses are very interesting, esecially if you start looking at it in terms of starting a new game. What if there was an EVE 2 announced, with no existing assets/pilots grandfathered in? Same basic idea as EVE, but with a new grapics engine and upgraded mechanics and programming under the hood?

Would people still be unwilling to start over in that situation?

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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#73 - 2014-04-21 09:22:37 UTC
Seraphi Nephalis wrote:
See, to me the responses are very interesting, esecially if you start looking at it in terms of starting a new game. What if there was an EVE 2 announced, with no existing assets/pilots grandfathered in? Same basic idea as EVE, but with a new grapics engine and upgraded mechanics and programming under the hood?

Would people still be unwilling to start over in that situation?



It would be a different game so completely different scenario, of course I would create a new character in a new game ??
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#74 - 2014-04-21 09:28:08 UTC
Seraphi Nephalis wrote:
See, to me the responses are very interesting, esecially if you start looking at it in terms of starting a new game. What if there was an EVE 2 announced, with no existing assets/pilots grandfathered in? Same basic idea as EVE, but with a new grapics engine and upgraded mechanics and programming under the hood?

Would people still be unwilling to start over in that situation?


Why couldnt you just import everything with an API key?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#75 - 2014-04-21 09:36:11 UTC
Seraphi Nephalis wrote:
See, to me the responses are very interesting, esecially if you start looking at it in terms of starting a new game. What if there was an EVE 2 announced, with no existing assets/pilots grandfathered in? Same basic idea as EVE, but with a new grapics engine and upgraded mechanics and programming under the hood?

Would people still be unwilling to start over in that situation?


We're already on EVE 2 I think. Maybe even EVE 3, depending on how you want to define it. CCP have upgraded the game engine at least twice and so many things work so differently (and so many more simply didn't exist) that calling "2014 EVE" a sequel to "2003 EVE" in everything except the accumulated lore (and what would the gain be in ditching the accumulated lore?) seems pretty reasonable to me.

And if we're using this definition, then CCP are hard at work on EVE 3 (or 4) right now.

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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
#76 - 2014-04-21 13:17:06 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Any veteran who says he would quit the game if required to start over has no right to tell a new player to enjoy playing the game in his present situation.

I look forward to the answers provided by the old vets to your question.


Not really, being asked to give up all the time you invested, effort and things you gained is not the same as telling a new player to enjoy the game. I may be a bitter vet, but I also buy and play new games, starting from zero like everyone else.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#77 - 2014-04-21 13:23:49 UTC
I'd still go down the industrial and logistical path, because it just fascinates me more than combat. But even within industry there's still a lot I haven't tried before, so maybe I'd do more focused on trading instead of production.

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#78 - 2014-04-21 14:15:38 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
ied bee 400oisk beater orf

they didn't think it be like it is, but it do!
Commander Spurty
#79 - 2014-04-21 15:24:13 UTC
Covert ops ships to 5 and a cloak first.

Interceptors 5 second.

Nothing else matters really

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And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2014-04-21 15:46:59 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Covert ops ships to 5 and a cloak first.

Interceptors 5 second.

Nothing else matters really


I would go the other way cos you can always fly covops in an Astero till you get the covops skill up to scratch but there is no substitute for an interceptor whenyou need one.