EVE General Discussion

Also, presumably, PLEX bought to buy any kind of client service are being cashed in very quickly rather than stashed away. The only one I can think of where you might want to have a stockpile of PLEX to be used later is the multi-character training, since you can't apply all at once and have the training permission tick down unprompted for months. And even then, there is an upper limit when dual training no longer becomes a sensible option compared to second account + character transfer, which once again puts the player back on a schedule of (almost) immediately exercise their options.

Speculation on the ISK price seems to be the only PLEX use where there's any real value in holding on to them and causing grey hairs for CCP's accountants.

You can have them tick down now for multiple months. No time limit any more that I am aware of.

Neat. So not even that reason exists any more.

Not everything is inflating.

To name just a few thigns that have dropped in price compared to 6-12 months ago ... most Pi items, especially P4s ... many mats including Trit, all of the SOE ships though as predicted they stabilised at 2.0 ISK/LP, the Rattlesnake with BPCs dropping below 250 mill on occasion.

I think that if you look at it in the long run you will see that the economy has been growing as time goes by. Back when plex were 300 mil, Trit was trading around the 2-3 isk mark. Since everything in the game is getting more expensive, the cost of Plex is going up as well. I would have to say that on average the plex is staying in line with the rate of inflation in Eve. Recently there has been a spike, and i think that we will see the trading prices of materials and ships go up right along with it.

The market for plex in game isnt a matter of CCP trying to get richer through plex sales. I will concede that plex does offer CCP a bit more revenue, however, Every time they sell a plex, someone doesnt pay thier monthly subscription. It is a way for the players that invest the effort in game can play for free, and those who want to wantonly destroy and be destroyed dont have to spend thier game time grinding out isk to pay for ships.

You have a very myopic view of EvE, old bean

And, you're totes wrong, in my humble opinion

I guess what I'm saying is that CCP have added some new scalable income sources that require either operating in lo-sec or working in groups which significantly outweigh the old solo, minimal interaction sources, and PLEX time cost has become scaled to those rather than the old methods. If you're prepared to engage with the game a little more deeply, then "30 days" costs about the same time to earn as it ever did.

I am very excited about SC, but it is not EVE, nor is it trying to be. They're not the same game and though there is obviously overlapping interest, I doubt it will affect EVE very much at all.

CCP have been focusing on fixing and updating existing content rather than adding sweeping new mechanics lately because that's what we, the playerbase, told them we wanted them to do in the clearest and least ambiguous way possible: when CCP said they were going to do the opposite, they lost 20% of their subscribers in a couple of weeks.

Surely you will concede that EVE, as a piece of software and as a game, works hugely better than it did in 2011? It's faster, more reliable, more polished, more attractive, easier to learn in hundreds of ways. The effects of that polish will be thrown into sharp relief when - if - Star Citizen launches. Surely you're not so naive as to think that it will launch with every feature promised? Or that every feature it does launch with will work properly? Or that all the ships will be balanced?

What CCP are doing now is not the panicked, undirected rush to fix as many minor issues as possible that we saw with Crucible and, and it's not the narrow "fix a broken thing" of Inferno or Retribution. What they've doing for the last year is, to a very large extent, preparing the way to do what you're asking them to do. They're developing EVE with a specific plan now, and that plan most definitely involves adding new content. CCP are laying the foundations for that expansion now in a planned and organised fashion. I know this because they have literally shown me this plan, and convinced me that they're able to deliver it and that they intend to.

Consider this: if the plan is to expand EVE with mechanics such as building new stargates, then don't you think that it is a very good idea to rework how science & industry work in-game before requiring players to take on such titanic building projects in order to access the new content?

The S&I reform will also have considerable "sandbox" effects on the way EVE works long before we get to build stargates. In a game that is primarily built on player interaction, that matters. There are more blogs to come revealing further S&I changes, and some of them are in my opinion specifically intended to change the way we interact with each other and provide gameplay hooks where previously there were there was a lonely, solo "massively singleplayer" experience.

In short: CCP are releasing new content. They're releasing it a little at a time rather than making you wait 4 years to get it all at once.

To put it another way: if you live in the UK and you cant make at least 500M ISK per hour, then you're working for less than minimum wage if you're PLEXing your accounts.

That's fine if you actively enjoy the method you use to make your ISK. It's even fine if you have no realistic liklehood of finding any paid employment. Otherwise you basically have a very poorly paid part-time job as a PvE grinder.

If you have any kind of job at all, then you're probably better off subscribing.