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Vote now - not CSM, much more impact for at least 1 EvE player

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-04-20 14:07:08 UTC
All that stuff doesn't matter, guys. It took you more time to type up a response than to vote for the guy, for free. I can't believe you don't feel some amount of love or compassion for him.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#22 - 2014-04-20 14:07:54 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
I can't believe you don't feel some amount of love or compassion for him.


I plead The Fifth on this

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-04-20 14:09:30 UTC
If Avalloc wins a van he has promised to get the custom license plate GOATSE.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-04-20 14:20:08 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
All that stuff doesn't matter, guys. It took you more time to type up a response than to vote for the guy, for free. I can't believe you don't feel some amount of love or compassion for him.


Read some of the comments on the facebook page or minerbumping topic and you'll be horrified as they are quite aggravating.

EVE is what happens when the rule of law does not apply and Darwinism is allowed to run freely.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#25 - 2014-04-20 14:20:52 UTC
Rhes wrote:
If Avalloc wins a van he has promised to get the custom license plate GOATSE.

Lil Bee would also be appropriate but +1 for GOATSE

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-04-20 14:45:37 UTC
Rhes wrote:
If Avalloc wins a van he has promised to get the custom license plate GOATSE.

Seems like a funny thing to do, but honestly I wouldn't say stuff like this when trying to qualify for a company sponsored gift. It's better to present the best case for yourself without trying to be a smartass or cheeky about it.

Just my opinion.

I actually want him to get it.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-04-20 15:28:48 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
www.minerbumping.com

stopped right here.

Don't know what OP is asking for but no support from me


Hmm, I find the whole Meanie Bumping thing really tedious, but I do separate in game stuff from real life.

yea. me too.

so when article starts with in-game stuff i don't look further

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-04-20 15:32:12 UTC
I'm attempting to vote, but it seems that it takes awhile for the signup to complete. But I'm happy to help out.





Now... Avalloc, you aren't allowed to paint ship kills on the side of your van, it would just be.... odd. Besides, I'm just exploring null, not spying on ya! P
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-04-20 15:39:16 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
www.minerbumping.com

stopped right here.

Don't know what OP is asking for but no support from me


James said that would happen

Prejudice is an ugly thing to see

yea, it's sad when people gets what they worked hard for: status of unreliable source Cool

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-04-20 15:45:45 UTC
+1

Everyone should support this! Pretty sick that some players can't separate RL from Eve Life and stop wearing their feelings on their sleeve.

Drops Mic
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#31 - 2014-04-20 15:46:47 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
yea, it's sad when people gets what they worked hard for: status of unreliable source Cool

While I personally don't agree with your view, I also totally respect it and respect that you have a different opinion simply because of the link.

It is associated with an issue that is very polarising in the community and not everyone will look past that (or needs to look past that). All I could do was ask if it was possible.

However, having made your view clear, I would also ask that you consider accepting that you've made your point and move on. There isn't really anything positive in terms of the original purpose of the thread in continuing to discuss that aspect. There are a lot of other threads past (and many more likely in the future) to discuss those things.
Saar Ynier
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-04-20 17:26:43 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Ayeshah Volfield wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
I guess that's the trouble with unfettered dishonesty, and advocating lack of integrity as a game mechanic. You post something like this and guess what...you expect to be believed. That is so funny. If it's true...IF it's true...heart rending story...IF it's true.

Too bad we all have to consider the source. Enjoy your miner bumping and ganking out there! We're pullin' for yah.

It was also posted on EVE online facebook page.
Oh yes. If it's on facebook it HAS to be true. Cool
(I have a bridge in San Francisco that's for sale.)
Look we get it. You don't like how some people play and you have issues disconnecting that with RL. Great stuff, now move on please.


I think to be honest its not a case of disconnecting RL from In-Game. Most people only know Minerbumping as a source of bias and what not. Then there is the fact that most people dont know this guy in real life, they only know his in game 'alter ego'.

So you're getting annoyed because people wont vote (and are against) for a guy who has made a bad in-game name for his self posted on a website that is pretty much there for epeen stroking and making fun of people???

(for the record, I did read the post on the site too)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#33 - 2014-04-20 17:30:44 UTC
Saar Ynier wrote:

I think to be honest its not a case of disconnecting RL from In-Game.


Correct. This is;

Saar Ynier wrote:
So you're getting annoyed because people wont vote (and are against) for a guy who has made a bad in-game name for his self posted on a website that is pretty much there for epeen stroking and making fun of people???


If you dont like the site and you dont want to do anything thats fine, but hows about just letting people make up their own minds?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Saar Ynier
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-04-20 17:36:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Saar Ynier
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Saar Ynier wrote:

I think to be honest its not a case of disconnecting RL from In-Game.


Correct. This is;

Saar Ynier wrote:
So you're getting annoyed because people wont vote (and are against) for a guy who has made a bad in-game name for his self posted on a website that is pretty much there for epeen stroking and making fun of people???


If you dont like the site and you dont want to do anything thats fine, but hows about just letting people make up their own minds?


Oh I agree, and don't get me wrong, I think it's a great idea (and I will be voting). But people can't expect it to be posted on a site that is notorious for people roleplaying big meanies (haha for lack of better words) and then not expect there to be people questioning the authenticity.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#35 - 2014-04-20 17:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Saar Ynier wrote:
So you're getting annoyed because people wont vote (and are against) for a guy who has made a bad in-game name for his self posted on a website that is pretty much there for epeen stroking and making fun of people???

The rest of your post, no problem from my perspective.

However on this part, what bad in-game name has Avalloc made for himself?

Here's a link to his z-killboard (which includes Condordekken events now): https://zkillboard.com/character/1282041313/page/1/

He's not a ganker, he doesn't live in highsec or give anyone a hard time. He's never been Concorded and never killed anyone illegally in highsec.

He plays the game just the same as many, many other people play the game - with friends and without causing any stress or problems for other people.

Yet you've made a judgement that he's made bad in-game choices on what basis?

He's just a guy in need and members of the community have rallied around this as a way to help when for the most part, there is nothing we can do for him (or other members of the community in similar situations) on a daily basis.

Help or don't. That's totally your choice and whichever you chose is totally fine.

That's all that anyone can ask. But do you really need to express a judgement about him that seems to have no factual basis?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#36 - 2014-04-20 17:52:01 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

Help or don't. That's totally your choice and whichever you chose is totally fine.

That's all that anyone can ask. But do you really need to express a judgement about him that seems to have no factual basis?


+More-than-fingers-plus-toes

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Saar Ynier
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-04-20 17:55:36 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Saar Ynier wrote:
So you're getting annoyed because people wont vote (and are against) for a guy who has made a bad in-game name for his self posted on a website that is pretty much there for epeen stroking and making fun of people???

The rest of your post, no problem from my perspective.

However on this part, what bad in-game name has Avalloc made for himself?

Here's a link to his z-killboard (which includes Condordekken events now): https://zkillboard.com/character/1282041313/page/1/

He's not a ganker, he doesn't live in highsec or give anyone a hard time. He's never been Concorded and never killed anyone illegally in highsec.

He plays the game just the same as many, many other people play the game - with friends and without causing any stress or problems for other people.

Yet you've made a judgement that he's made bad in-game choices on what basis?

He's just a guy in need and members of the community have rallied around this as a way to help when for the most part, there is nothing we can do for him (or other members of the community in similar situations) on a daily basis.

Help or don't. That's totally your choice and whichever you chose is totally fine.

That's all that anyone can ask. But do you really need to express a judgement about him that seems to have no factual basis?


Please read my other post above.

You mis-understand my point. I personally have no problem and I will be voting. However the man is a goonswarm member (and again while I have no issue) the goons have a certain reputation to their name. Grrr goons and what not. Same as the site.

Both the goons and the site do great things, provide content etc etc but its at the expense of others a lot of the time and people cannot be expected to just forget all about that. If that makes sense? Do you ubderstand what I am saying? Trying to explain it as best I can without garbling words.

Basically, people in this thread are being called out for not supporting this endevour due to the names the people and sites have made for them. They're then being treat with disdain because they have aired that opinion...
Marsha Mallow
#38 - 2014-04-20 17:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
+2
I got a bonus vote :)

Those who don't want to vote because of association with Code or Goons are entitled that position,*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#39 - 2014-04-20 17:59:35 UTC
Saar Ynier wrote:

Both the goons and the site do great things, provide content etc etc but its at the expense of others a lot of the time and people cannot be expected to just forget all about that. If that makes sense? Do you ubderstand what I am saying? Trying to explain it as best I can without garbling words.


Yes, and I think what we are both saying in response is;

That's what they do ingame, but this is basically a charity appeal. Should two sides in a sport not come togethter for their community?

Saar Ynier wrote:
Basically, people in this thread are being called out for not supporting this endevour due to the names the people and sites have made for them. They're then being treat with disdain because they have aired that opinion...


No one is being called out, the finger pointing is going in one direction, and I think its been pretty civil around here.
I caught myself on earlier, but then realised that this is not a thread to debate the moral inequities of the human condition :)

So, like vote for this guy, or dont. Happy Rabbitegg Day.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#40 - 2014-04-20 18:08:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Saar Ynier wrote:
Basically, people in this thread are being called out for not supporting this endevour due to the names the people and sites have made for them. They're then being treat with disdain because they have aired that opinion...

No one has a problem with anyones choice to either vote or not vote, for whatever reason. That's totally your choice.

The responses I have read relate not to people's choices, just to other issues expressed, that really aren't relevant to this thread.

In your case for example, you made a direct statement of judgement about the guy without any basis for doing so other than stereotype.

Your decision to vote or not, that's totally respected either way, but those other issues belong in different threads. They aren't at the core of what this one is about.

Glad you voted and like several people, it's clear what your broader opinion is. Hopefully that can be the end of it and the thread can stay on track about helping someone out, rather than some other in game issues he isn't really associated with (goons of course he is).