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An Announcement On The Future Of The World Of Darkness Project

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Maaloc
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#281 - 2014-04-18 02:24:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Oh, CCP, you are the worst.

Since the day you bought WhiteWolf you've done nothing good for the franchise and now, after 6 years, you're telling you're cancelling WoD?


For at least 3 years you've been only showing that you (most of it is related to EVE):
1) don't give about your current and potential customers;
2) can't predict (like, at all) the impact of your decisions on the community;
3) have no idea how your games work;
4) have no idea what you're doing when it comes to changing stuff or bringing something to EVE.


Good luck ruining a good roleplaying setting, you bought without any intention to develop, and an MMO that used to be cool before your staff started inhaling hairspray or something.


Edit: Profanity removed, CCP Phantom
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#282 - 2014-04-18 03:12:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Maaloc wrote:
Oh, CCP, you are the worst.

Since the day you bought WhiteWolf you've done nothing good for the franchise and now, after 6 ******* years, you're telling you're cancelling WoD?



dont forget "we have no plans for the IP"

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#283 - 2014-04-18 21:16:03 UTC
I suppose in a way it's for the best; it's not like CCP would have done WoD justice. CCP has already shown that they can't be faithful to their own IP (missile bonuses tied to Gallente piloting skills?!?); why should we expect they would have treated another IP any better?

The best thing that could happen here is for CCP to admit their screw-up and sell this off to someone who will handle it properly.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#284 - 2014-04-18 21:19:01 UTC
The one thing that seems to me to be of actual value is manpower, and a physical simulator that is astonishingly well done.


This is the digital age. Shop out that simulator for clothing designers. Now they can have all the anorexic models they want without any of the harmful side-effects. Those people would pay big bux for a realistic simulator before having to pay models ridiculously large sums of money.

Or something. Its still a great piece of tech.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#285 - 2014-04-18 22:20:41 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Beaver Retriever wrote:
So are you going to spend any resources on fixing Eve now, or are you going to continue tweaking dials on the Titanic while developing console games?

You're all out of excuses now, bar the most obvious one - 'we're too incompetent to save Eve from stagnation'. Either admit to that, or do something.


We're trying to make sure that as much of the talent as possible from the WoD Development Team is kept on board, and we're exploring the option of moving people onto EVE Universe projects. That's all we can say on the situation right now. Smile


WoD environment did look great and I always thought it could have been a city inside one of EVE stations. Please reuse it and give us a proper EVE WiS.

The issue of the WoD proves that I was correct all along.
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#286 - 2014-04-18 22:22:50 UTC
Hoshi Sorano wrote:
I suppose in a way it's for the best; it's not like CCP would have done WoD justice. CCP has already shown that they can't be faithful to their own IP (missile bonuses tied to Gallente piloting skills?!?); why should we expect they would have treated another IP any better?

The best thing that could happen here is for CCP to admit their screw-up and sell this off to someone who will handle it properly.


Wait a second, are you saying that CCP management is Gallente?
Marsha Mallow
#287 - 2014-04-18 23:07:58 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Wait a second, are you saying that CCP management is Gallente?

Hate to tell you but God is Gallente too. Stay calm, breath into the paper bag.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#288 - 2014-04-18 23:19:18 UTC
EVE + WOD = WIS


:D

Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Beta Maoye
#289 - 2014-04-19 16:56:07 UTC
Omg, eight years of works was wasted. Imagine how those who had worked on WoD put eight years of failed project in their resume when they look for a new job. I feel sorry for them. CCP should do everything they can to help these released staffs.
Dreadsta Kring
Space Junkers
#290 - 2014-04-19 20:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Dreadsta Kring
im glad , thx for info ,, sounds like another fail like Dust
how is Valkyrie coming on .... lmao
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#291 - 2014-04-19 23:08:30 UTC
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#292 - 2014-04-20 04:04:19 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
So what will become of the IP now? Just more storyteller rulebooks and fluff?


We know the value in the IP and are going to be reviewing the status of it in the near future. There aren't any plans for it at present.

Smile



Hopefully this means "we're selling it"

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#293 - 2014-04-20 09:44:52 UTC
While it sucks that a few broskies are now in between employment options, all I can say (and I believe I speak for the majority of us Eve addicts here when I say) is:

About damn time.

I'll be expecting my Incarna now.

For serious.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#294 - 2014-04-20 10:08:36 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
So what will become of the IP now? Just more storyteller rulebooks and fluff?


We know the value in the IP and are going to be reviewing the status of it in the near future. There aren't any plans for it at present.

Smile



Hopefully this means "we're selling it"

You don't sell a valuable IP, you put it up for rent. Unless you really need a lot of money right now instead of a regular income.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#295 - 2014-04-20 13:03:36 UTC
Does this mean we'll get vampire teeth in the NEX store?
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#296 - 2014-04-20 19:30:33 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
While it sucks that a few broskies are now in between employment options, all I can say (and I believe I speak for the majority of us Eve addicts here when I say) is:

About damn time.

I'll be expecting my Incarna now.

For serious.



this except for the WiS part. That needs to go

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#297 - 2014-04-21 04:51:15 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Random McNally wrote:

Falcon, can you comment about whether or not this will affect the table/paper version?


Also this O.o


Right now we don't have any further plans for the WoD IP.

The World of Darkness MMO is no more, however pen and paper is something I can't comment on, sorry Sad

We're immortal, right? F### EvE lore. This game would be way more bitchin if we were living in vampire stations. This is a golden opportunity for you CCP. If you f*** this up I'm going to be really disappointed. You could make ambulation happen now. Do it like you always do... roll out with what you have and fix it later. If you miss this opportunity there's no way you'll get another chance. Just do it. Strike while the iron is hot, for f***s sake!.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#298 - 2014-04-21 11:22:32 UTC
To be honest, WOD was a Bad idea from the start, pity you didn't consult me before you started, you would've saved yourself $52 million or whatever was sunk into this project, my consulting services would've been free.

A Vampire Game , lol , whatever Roll

Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#299 - 2014-04-21 16:45:00 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
To be honest, WOD was a Bad idea from the start, pity you didn't consult me before you started, you would've saved yourself $52 million or whatever was sunk into this project, my consulting services would've been free.

A Vampire Game , lol , whatever Roll


Nice troll attempt, I give it a 2/10

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#300 - 2014-04-22 07:23:52 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Stitcher wrote:


It would be nice to get some feedback on WHY the project had to be shelved, though. Were the challenges technical, artistic, financial? And what can the community do to try and bring our vampires back from the dead?


We basically just feel that we overreached with WoD in its initial concept and were trying to achieve too much in the first iteration of the project. We've worked hard and adjusted the plan a number of times along the way but felt the project just wan't true to the original concept that was laid out.

The decision was made to cancel the project because we don't feel we met our target of creating a fully immersive experience set in the WoD universe, and felt it was in our best interests to put an end to the project rather than retro-fitting it and re-hashing it further.



Was wod cancelled to make CCP more attractive to industry investors and allow CCP to be sold, as I've got to admit hilmar has been looking sick to the gills whenever he's on camera since the whole 'greed is good' memo leak.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...