Missions & Complexes

This is already true though. Multiple cans means that each person can hack their own can meaning sites are cleared faster in a group than solo.

Or are you suggesting hacking sites should be a single can in which you activate a hacking module on (or multiples there of) and wait to get paid (mining)?

It's not that bad. The hard part is not blowing up the cans with a lot of loot in them, even with good skills. Most of the time, I'm able to get most of the good items though, and null sec cans definitely have a lot more loot than others.

What I don't like are the newer mechanics of probe launching. Insta-probe recall just kills the simulationist nature of EVE for me. Also, I sometimes fine myself exploring less because I feel that the value of the loot is being suppressed by the fact there are too many explorers now, especially with the new SOE ships. As a previous poster mentioned datacores are practically worthless now.

The argument about loot spew is not about failing to get all the good loot, you can, we have worked out how.
The argument about loot spew is not about simplifying the game or complexity.
The argument about loot spew is not about players wanting it easy and dumbing down the game

The argument about loot spew is about the fact it is an unpleasant rsi inducing pain in the ass.

Since when has making life as unpleasant as possible a reason to suggest it is a good idea?

Ah i get it.......

And it sucks.

Great, fantastic CCP at last got the message.

These lowsec data/relic sites are worth nothing. Has anyone gotten more than 10 million isk from these sites? I scan cans before I do them so I know which cans to pick as quickly as possible, but I don't seem to get the items I want. For me the actual value of these sites are like 1-3 mill isk.

So much for a mini-game, that btw also gives dead ends by just unlucky core spawns that have nothing to do with skill 50/70 virus coherence for each core what??, which rewards you with another gambling mini-game; this loot spew...

If someone could explain to me how you can earn a descent money with these data/relic sites yeah that'll be great, because 1-3mill for each site is just hopeless. Halp /o\

I mean this in a light hearted way, but with the intention of making a serious point.

I hope whoever came up with the loot spew idea has now been promoted to catching the toast popping out of the CCP kitchen toaster.

Loot spew is probably the dumbest, least enjoyable game mechanic I have seen in all my time playing the game, well apart from mining ice.

CCP RUINED exploration for me with this and all the other changes. Since I was mostly operating in high sec, I just did radars and the DED's and the good grav sites. Totally ruined for experienced players, for noobs who can't even utilize the stuff.

A solution to a problem that didn't exist. Except maybe they gave the Goons something to do with their unwashed hordes in Blue Sec, and that just did wonders for the price of T2 salvage. I prolly lost a Billion in value on my T2 salvage Inventory for making T2 rigs.

I know two long time players who QUIT, totaling 7 paying accounts, just over what CCP did to Grav sites.

I tried the loot spew crap ONCE, and have loaded anything but a combat scanner probe since.

The loot spew is just terrible. The minigame is okay though.

Honestly, if they get rid of the loot spew (and they ought to), they should have the minigame unlock the rewards.

Break open a node and you get some kind of reward, harder nodes give better reward. Add in a node that can counterhack and destroy or devalue rewards for some added excitement.

Basically the minigame is OK, but somewhat dull, add some fun and pressure by making the minigame mean something beyond finding the core and busting it open. This would also give a reason to uncovering as much of the minigame map as possible.

For as it stands the minigame is fun (or at least more fun than the loot spew mechanism) but offer little beyond activating the loot spew.

Seems the general concensus is everyone hates the loot spew. Crossing my fingers its removal does make it for the summer expansion (or sooner lol).

On the other hand I would have loved to see the chaos and outrage if this feature had been applied to all ship wrecks instead (pve AND pvp) Hehehe.

I gave exploration another chance. I found myself zooming out to get all the cans onscreen, and then squinting at the monitor, hovering my mouse over each can to see if they were Parts, Material etc. After half an hour, my eyes began hurting so I gave up.