Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually it's extremely tight to fit properly*. Start adding launcher rigs, the CPU gets very tight. Tight, however, isnt impossible.

You do need a decent whack of faction kit though. Mind you, Navy ravens are the same, so are NDomis (were? I've not done them in a while).

It's easy if you're messing about with passive stuff though.


*Most people seemed to muck about with this passive nonsense though, few seemed to eschew that, going active and leveraging the missiles - although with the omni nerf they lost some of their bite, but not a massive amount.

It would also pigeon-hole the RS and Gila even further, limiting them to effectively being a giant flyswatter against frigates.

As it is, the Gila and RS could fit EITHER the standard or rapid launchers. Decrease in reload time would force it into only the RLML/RHML.

Pretty sure it was taken that way, but really gaining 5 seconds every 27 volleys for T2 cruise launchers is effectively nothing while the boost to RMHL for the RS would be huge, thus pigeonholing it.

naw. A reload bonus would benefit all launchers and be OP as hell.

How is a 5 second reduction in reload after 27 normal unbonused volleys (remember, this is reload, not cycle time) in any way OP?

How about that in Null sec, in a Snake you had a chance against a couple inty's tackling you, but now without the added drone dmg/HP for your Warr II's your basically boned.

Nullified Inty's + 2 shot Warr II's = Defenceless Snake in null

Ya don't spend alot of time in Null do ya? most Anom running gets done with 2-3 BS's. BS's Typcially can't deal with Cepters so well, that WAS the role of the Snake BS, Until now.

I'm not too happy with some of those changes, although they aren't as bad as cruiser changes (especially PG cripples on Cynabal and Vigilant).

Rattlesnake really isn't improved much, since it still has 7.5 effective drones, although this is compensated by increasing the number of effective launchers. Also, having drone damage bonus built into the hull itself, along with changes to the Drone Interfacing skill means it will be much less skill-intensive. Since light and medium drones will be unbonused, I expect Rapid Heavy Missile setups to become dominant as Cruise missiles cannot hit smaller stuff effectively (while a MJD will also help in such situations, it has a long reactivation time which will be annoying if you had to activate it just to kill a few frigates). At the end of the day, what I expect changes to Gila and Rattlesnake will do is to convince most existing users to switch to Ishtars. The old bonus of 10% to drone damage and hitpoints wasn't broken and was apparently changed just for the sake of changing (which also applies to most of the changes done by CCP in the last year or two, sadly).

Nightmare, being another ship that has little use other than to shoot red crosses, will not benefit much from the afterburner bonus. Good thing is that it still has 10 effective turrets so it was still buffed at the end of the day, but every incursionrunner would be happier if there was some kind of capacitor-related bonus instead of this predictable AB bonus.

Bhaalgorn and Vindicator haven't been changed much and Vindi finally has a decent targeting range - cool.

Machariel wasn't changed much either, scan resolution got nerfed but that's fair when you compare it with other battleships. What I was hoping is to replace one lowslot with a midslot though, to be in pair with the rest of the Angel lineup.

Errrrm, how about you drop a mobile depot, refit to deal with the ceptors, RLML's seems as the snake gets a damage bonus to ALL missiles (Therm/Kin), or refit with neuts, cap them out, MJD out of range and warp the **** out. And if you start saying "Blah, blah but ceptors can point me outside of neut range" well, yeah. But they have to SCRAMBLE you to actually tackle you because of MJD's.

BS's are extremely easy to keep safe in anoms/DED sites.

Stop being a tool.

So you believe that people will drop a mobile depot, and wait a minute for it to deploy while the interceptors chip away and call in heavy damage, or MJD to a point where their drones cannot now actually fire on the interceptors? Oh you mean run away! As there is no choice now. Yeah, running away from rat frigates is a thing it seems. back to interceptors, after A MJ they are fast enough to catch and repoint you before you warp away, so how does that work?? Fit nanos? Gimp the fit some more? Good idea.

And you believe that people will continue to use the rattlesnake, rather than a more suitable ship , where the rattlesnake could handle it before??

And this constitutes a buff?

A bit rich calling the first poster a tool.

The fix is incredibly simple, and adds no power to the ship, so how is nerfing the ship rather than actually making it desirable, the better option? Unbonused light drones, could be accepted and worked around to some degree IF the ship was actually able to use the bonuses promised, but as it stands, all compromise, little benefit.