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Why lowsec is a ****hole.

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Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#1 - 2014-04-17 23:10:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Diamond Zerg
Hi.

In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.

Firstly, you have most of the powers of nullsec (cynos, bridges, capitals) and fewer drawbacks.

There are no bubbles to catch capital ships, so using them is much less risky. You can bridge very confidently and not have to worry about your fleet being bombed or caught in a warp disruption sphere.

Key ships in lowsec like falcons, link boats, logistics etc are much harder to stop due to the absence of bubbles.
Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage.

I've personally found that the solo/small gang "good fights" you find in lowsec are much rarer than in nullsec.

I'm not 100% what the solution to this is. For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec.
Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.
Hi.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2014-04-17 23:12:16 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
I've personally found that the solo/small gang "good fights" you find in lowsec are much rarer than in nullsec.


Funny. My experience has been just the opposite.

The difference is that I wouldn't dream of asking for a nerf to nullsec. Can we just agree to disagree?
Prince Sanguine
#3 - 2014-04-17 23:23:38 UTC
It seems like the best remedy for this is to stay in null. I rarely venture into any other space unless its hs to gank for the tears. Null is king

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.

Adunh Slavy
#4 - 2014-04-17 23:25:40 UTC
More ownership with out security status losses for defending it

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2014-04-17 23:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
If you can't find goog solo/small gang fights in lowsec, you aren't looking very hard. They're generally everywhere. Its no more difficult than in null.

If you can't catch a pod because others know how to warp out instantly after being killed, use a smartbomb. They are generally rare to see in lowsec and mostly used to kill drones, but they work just as well against pods. Anyone in lowsec that pvps quickly learns how to save their pod. Without bubbles to prevent warping, you need to find other ways to prevent them getting away.

Lowsec at the moment, at least in the FW systems offers some of the best solo and small gang pvp. It doesn't need fixing though any change that bought even more pvp would always be welcome.
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#6 - 2014-04-17 23:46:03 UTC
Wouldnt lowsec be a great place for your Warlording?
Shrewd Tsero
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-18 00:27:22 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.


What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!

It is good to have substance to one's existence.  But in the absence of substance, one can do much yet with style.

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2014-04-18 00:34:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Shrewd Tsero wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.


What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!


Well, lets put it this way...

If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out the place in low sec and live in Hell.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#9 - 2014-04-18 00:37:16 UTC
The problem with low sec is the whole idea behind it. Honestly, it should just be nullsec light and not this Judge Dredd's Mega-City One thing.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#10 - 2014-04-18 00:38:21 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Shrewd Tsero wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.


What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!


Well, lets put it this way...

If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out low sec and live in Hell.





You mean Hek.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
#11 - 2014-04-18 00:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Django Askulf
Diamond Zerg wrote:

Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage.
it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec.
Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.


High grade implants in lowsec? Not very common that I have ever seen. And I dunno about great advantage, do I sense tears?

Also, dont rely on bubbles to make up for your lack of skills, at catching pods.

Edit: Oh and....HTFU
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#12 - 2014-04-18 00:59:55 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Shrewd Tsero wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.


What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!


Well, lets put it this way...

If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out low sec and live in Hell.





You mean Hek.


Yes.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-04-18 01:19:05 UTC
Yes there are no bubbles in lowsec. Not sure we needed a whole post to say that. Did you have any ideas to improve lowsec? From my point of view lowsec has most of the risk of null without the payout. Gate guns for pvp are annoying too.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#14 - 2014-04-18 01:44:00 UTC
I think sec loss is a big part of the problem.

Low sec is supposed to be the less tryhard version of null. No sov to defend, just roaming and fighting.

The problem is that fighting in low kills your sec status. So you have to be a full time null/low sec player, or just stay out of low sec.

By contrast, you can roam into null, do a suicide frigate run and go back to your regular character afterwards.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#15 - 2014-04-18 03:33:59 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec.
I'd go the other way and give pods bubble-immunity so the nullseccers can enjoy expensive implants like everyone else. P

Who put the goat in there?

Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#16 - 2014-04-18 03:49:26 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Shrewd Tsero wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.


What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!


Well, lets put it this way...

If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out the place in low sec and live in Hell.


You know, you supposed to be some slick-**** killer. Now look at you... all back-of-the-bus and ****.

Cool

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.

Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-04-18 03:58:53 UTC
I'm not very good at it but I PVP in low sec all the time solo. 50% of the time I get a 1v1, 25% of the time I see a trap but am so bored I take it anyways, 25% of the time I get no action. Honestly the traps are usually pretty obvious. One of the main corps in Metropolis I see is call Traps'R'Us. They live up to their name. Lose a few Slashers, red status the ganking corps and neutral sec the good fighters, problem solved.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-04-18 08:12:30 UTC
What are you chatting about, lowsec is literally solo/small gang world. I call troll

I disagree

Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-04-18 08:20:10 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Hi.

In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvp— and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.

Firstly, you have most of the powers of nullsec (cynos, bridges, capitals) and fewer drawbacks.

There are no bubbles to catch capital ships, so using them is much less risky. You can bridge very confidently and not have to worry about your fleet being bombed or caught in a warp disruption sphere.

Key ships in lowsec like falcons, link boats, logistics etc are much harder to stop due to the absence of bubbles.
Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage.

I've personally found that the solo/small gang "good fights" you find in lowsec are much rarer than in nullsec.

I'm not 100% what the solution to this is. For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec.
Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.


It funny, because my experience is quite the opposite. In low sec you can get fights ranging from 1 v 1 to about 200 people. Here an investement in the form of slave implants makes quite a difference, where you are just another guy who aint better than the one next to you in 0.0. Also, have you heard of heavy interdictors? They do a great job in catching capitals in low sec. If bubbles were allowed in low sec, you would alienate a lot of the people living there. There is plenty of space to play with bubbles in, no need to ruin it for the people that have adapted to and enjoy another type of pvp.
Plug in Baby
Family Tipes
#20 - 2014-04-18 08:58:26 UTC
Django Askulf wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:

Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage.
it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec.
Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.


High grade implants in lowsec? Not very common that I have ever seen. And I dunno about great advantage, do I sense tears?


Where do you live? I find the question among PVP groups in low sec is not whether they have HG or not, but which one are they in today.

Really if you WL the smartbombers and check local you really don't lose pods, so why not use implants?

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