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Someone stole my Wei Todaki. What can I do about this?

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#101 - 2014-01-27 16:17:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Estella Osoka wrote:
Bwahaha! PVPers fitting expensive mods in hisec? Not likely.


Considering that in hisec the number of people willing to come kill you is low, and that there are not evil bubbles to lose your slave clone in, and that there are stations and station games everywhere, I think hisec pvpers are the most likely of pvpers to fit expensive mods. Its the perfect low-risk, controllable situation in which to bust out your billion isk faction cruisers and play station games with your vindicator.

Also, if anyone things a missioner is actually going to team up with another missioner in two PVE battleships to fight off evil griefers... well. that isn't going to happen.

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Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
#102 - 2014-01-27 16:21:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdul 'aleem
Batelle wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Bwahaha! PVPers fitting expensive mods in hisec? Not likely.


Considering that in hisec the number of people willing to come kill you is low, and that there are not evil bubbles to lose your slave clone in, and that there are stations and station games everywhere, I think hisec pvpers are the most likely of pvpers to fit expensive mods. Its the perfect low-risk, controllable situation in which to bust out your billion isk faction cruisers and play station games with your vindicator.

Also, if anyone things a missioner is actually going to team up with another missioner in two PVE battleships to fight off evil griefers... well. that isn't going to happen.



There's already interest from "vigilante" and merc groups who would love the chance to counter-gank mission invaders.

They look specifically for valid targets everywhere.

Realistically, all that a missioner may have to do (if they don't get help in advance and set a counter-gank trap) is to fleet anyone in local who wants to help.

The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion

Click "like" in the original post to support it.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#103 - 2014-01-27 17:41:49 UTC
Abdul 'aleem wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Bwahaha! PVPers fitting expensive mods in hisec? Not likely.


Considering that in hisec the number of people willing to come kill you is low, and that there are not evil bubbles to lose your slave clone in, and that there are stations and station games everywhere, I think hisec pvpers are the most likely of pvpers to fit expensive mods. Its the perfect low-risk, controllable situation in which to bust out your billion isk faction cruisers and play station games with your vindicator.

Also, if anyone things a missioner is actually going to team up with another missioner in two PVE battleships to fight off evil griefers... well. that isn't going to happen.



There's already interest from "vigilante" and merc groups who would love the chance to counter-gank mission invaders.

They look specifically for valid targets everywhere.

Realistically, all that a missioner may have to do (if they don't get help in advance and set a counter-gank trap) is to fleet anyone in local who wants to help.


Oh really? Who? Name these vigilantes and merc groups.
Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
#104 - 2014-01-27 21:47:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdul 'aleem
Estella Osoka wrote:
Abdul 'aleem wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Bwahaha! PVPers fitting expensive mods in hisec? Not likely.


Considering that in hisec the number of people willing to come kill you is low, and that there are not evil bubbles to lose your slave clone in, and that there are stations and station games everywhere, I think hisec pvpers are the most likely of pvpers to fit expensive mods. Its the perfect low-risk, controllable situation in which to bust out your billion isk faction cruisers and play station games with your vindicator.

Also, if anyone things a missioner is actually going to team up with another missioner in two PVE battleships to fight off evil griefers... well. that isn't going to happen.



There's already interest from "vigilante" and merc groups who would love the chance to counter-gank mission invaders.

They look specifically for valid targets everywhere.

Realistically, all that a missioner may have to do (if they don't get help in advance and set a counter-gank trap) is to fleet anyone in local who wants to help.


Oh really? Who? Name these vigilantes and merc groups.




Sorry Princess Achaja alt, you'll have to read to find out for yourself.

edit:

Oh sorry the players posting may just be posting their own interest, but the point has been argued that a whole Vigilante profession could be created.

The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion

Click "like" in the original post to support it.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#105 - 2014-01-27 22:46:26 UTC
You are so fail, and this idea of yours is fail. Now you are calling me an alt just to discredit the flaw i found.
Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
#106 - 2014-01-27 22:56:38 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
You are so fail, and this idea of yours is fail. Now you are calling me an alt just to discredit the flaw i found.



lol you are clearly delusional

The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion

Click "like" in the original post to support it.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#107 - 2014-01-28 19:01:52 UTC
Yeah Roll That is why your threads got locked.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#108 - 2014-01-28 19:33:51 UTC
Abdul 'aleem wrote:
Oh sorry the players posting may just be posting their own interest, but the point has been argued that a whole Vigilante profession could be created.


Or people could just go out & do it.

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Qalix
Long Jump.
#109 - 2014-01-28 20:12:22 UTC
Why don't we just put this to the test? Tell us where you mission and someone will show up in one of your missions with a suspect flag (they will just steal from a neutral alt). Then we'll see what's what, won't we?

Deal?
Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
#110 - 2014-01-28 21:38:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdul 'aleem
Qalix wrote:
Why don't we just put this to the test? Tell us where you mission and someone will show up in one of your missions with a suspect flag (they will just steal from a neutral alt). Then we'll see what's what, won't we?

Deal?


I think that you accidentally double posted here instead of in the Features & Ideas thread.


Is that the suggestion that you are referring to? The one linked in my signature?

Oh, and thanks again man for the suggestion to post there.

All of the support that the idea is getting is really heart warming.

The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion

Click "like" in the original post to support it.
Galigor
Serenity Initiative
#111 - 2014-04-17 21:50:47 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:



Others I remember seeing in my mission trying to steal it. RUSSBOY, MinNet
associates: Galigor, Farkoth, Ragnar D IX. possibly Anotherla(alt in system)


Me and a corporation in which I am not cooperate with the Princess of Achaja or with other thieves.
I honestly do not like.

We do trade cosmos kit.

If someone you're interested cosmos kits we have a steady supply of the whole package.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4484625

Other alt Achaji:
- Christina Stark
- Princess Keira
- Princess Finena
- Princess CorrieLynn

I advise you to also watch out for: Cemetery Blues

Good luck!
Hulk Miner
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#112 - 2014-04-19 09:08:04 UTC
Galigor wrote:
Nerf Burger wrote:



Others I remember seeing in my mission trying to steal it. RUSSBOY, MinNet
associates: Galigor, Farkoth, Ragnar D IX. possibly Anotherla(alt in system)


Me and a corporation in which I am not cooperate with the Princess of Achaja or with other thieves.
I honestly do not like.

We do trade cosmos kit.

If someone you're interested cosmos kits we have a steady supply of the whole package.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4484625

Other alt Achaji:
- Christina Stark
- Princess Keira
- Princess Finena
- Princess CorrieLynn

I advise you to also watch out for: Cemetery Blues

Good luck!



I totally agree with Princess as I remember when he came on the scene as I was fast tracking people through the Caldari cosmos missions in ottomainen. This was dealt with by war deccing his corp and allowing me to deal with it by blowing his GIla up on multiple occasions. He then dissolved his corp to continue exploiting his niche.

His process was warp into the mission and clean up until the last pocket then drop in an instwarp frig to sccop the mission specific drop.

This was petitioned and the GM came back with "working as intended and not an exploit" line. As this thread lost its way form the OP all I can answer is mission specific loot should be dropped in a can that can only be opened by the person who accepted the mission, everything else in the mission is fair game. Risk vs reward for the pirate is not balanced here but as it stands he is still there and its still happening so a few options.

1. Don't run the mission
2. Run the mission and spam the dscan and safe up
3. Pay the price
4. Hire some insta pop goons to watch the gate for 40 mins

Blues on the other hand is a sound guy who war decced nearly all the corps flying around in the Caldari cosmos area for kicks and to get some bling kills. This can not be on the same par with Princess, the storyline mission stealing ******.


BTW princess if your reading this. Man up and form another corp so I war dec and kill your GIla clones again.
Lockdown86
Night line Logistics
#113 - 2014-04-23 12:38:54 UTC
The Agent should give you a Special pass key unpon accepting the mission, on the down side, your friends cannot help you , so its a solo struggle of eve! btw thats what u get for being a pve biiiiiiiiiit** i got 3 alts, and someone tryed to get me when i was doing a site in low sec last night :)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23082481

he was cloaked up in the site but i was ready, never let ur guard down
Gekkoh
Circle of Steel Inc.
#114 - 2014-04-24 04:47:20 UTC
Seems simple to me.

Either have the mission complete when the target ship is destroyed, or have the mission auto-reset at downtime.

Who cares if that makes the items farmable and lowers their value? That's not the purpose of a COSMOS mission, so it shouldn't impact the design.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#115 - 2014-04-24 05:01:31 UTC
Gekkoh wrote:
Seems simple to me.

Either have the mission complete when the target ship is destroyed, or have the mission auto-reset at downtime.

Who cares if that makes the items farmable and lowers their value? That's not the purpose of a COSMOS mission, so it shouldn't impact the design.



I do dedspace complexes and escalations. They have payouts from 200m to 600m average. I take great pains to keep the BMs out of other peoples hands if they aren't public. This is just about the one and only mission in highsec where similar precautions are necessary, and the reward for doing so is nearly as good as the best ded complexes in the game (on average).

ie COSMOS is where you briefly show you can keep your ship safe competently.

T3, eccm, fit that doesn't need drones, kill wrecks, leave encounter when probes are on scan (they'll be obvious since you are using a ship that forces them to be close to hit), trust that one of the neuts is a virtue alt, and that if you are really desired as a target, that one will be cloaked trying to get closer with d-scan and bookmarks (which may require some time shifting of the encounter on your part).

CCP changing it so that scrubbing through with a battleship for 500m profit just works would be terrible imo.
Mini SS
Blue Dreams Plus
#116 - 2014-04-24 07:52:31 UTC
CCP should just make the mission spawn within a 5 jumps at random, At least the guy would have to move his prober alt around instead of just leaving it permanently in one system.
Eurynome Mangeiri
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2014-04-24 13:19:35 UTC
dexington wrote:
Xurr wrote:
dexington wrote:
Xurr wrote:
There really isn't a defense.


Don't do the mission with combat probes on d-scan


It doesn't matter, it takes 45+ mins


you need to keep scanning for probes and warp out if you see any.

deosn't matter, if you use any ship able to run such mission, a competent scanner (and we'll assume he is, since it does that repetedly), will get you in one scan, so the odds you evade the probes before he gets your location, are really low.

you would have time to gtfo before he lands on grid, but since he is not interested in you but by a can or a specific npc, it doesn't matter to him.

anything cruiser sized will be 1 scan for a competent prober, even a "hard to scan" tengu