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leavemymomalone idiot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-04-17 17:16:02 UTC
how about CCP making an area of space where it is actually SAFE, where any aggression like locking up a ship or bumping results in ship and pod being destroyed..a super safe hisec ultra sec if you will.

Almost impossible to gank in these areas. i say almost, but i mean NEVER.

everyone is banging on about getting more players into the game, welll...this post is directed to all the risk adverse pilots who want to carebear without worry. knowing that gankers and griefers cannot operate as they do now in normal hisec..


i am certain that an area of ultra-sec would be stuffed with pilots every day. and the forums filled with the raised voices of all those pvp pilots who want more access to victims to fatten up killlboards and being denied. let the tears of frustration flow.


nerf hisec ? no i say make ultra sec.

what do you think?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-04-17 17:16:48 UTC
I think you better be wearing asbestos underwear.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-04-17 17:16:55 UTC
i think you're not nearly as funny as you think you are Sad
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-04-17 17:17:29 UTC  |  Edited by: hedge betts Shiyurida
On the off chance this is not a troll thread.

You have more of a chance of cup doing a rollback to 2009 than what you suggest.

Pog mo thoin

Wulfgar WarHammer
Unrustled
#5 - 2014-04-17 17:19:56 UTC
This thread is going places...
leavemymomalone idiot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-04-17 17:22:57 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
i think you're not nearly as funny as you think you are Sad



i know you may not believe it, but im not trying to be funny.

all i hear is more fights all eve is about is everyone versus everyone

well i think that the risk adverse should get what they want to. it is a sandbox after all why shouldn't eve have totally safe areas?


all i hear is we want more victims to shoot.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2014-04-17 17:22:59 UTC
Sure. Here is a full list of the restrictions that should apply:

· You can obviously not lock any player ship.
· You can't activate any kind of AoE weaponry or module.
· You can't use the market, contracts or the trading window.
· You can't access or manage POSes and their services.
· You can't mine.
· You can't shoot rats.
· You can't access any kind of container in space.
· You can't carry any cargo out of or into a station.
· You can't use the on-board scanner or scan probes.
· You can't be in a fleet.
· You can't use salvagers and similar mini-profession modules.
· You can't access the industry interface.
· There will be no access free-floating sites in space.
· There will be no planets.
· There will be no station offices or services besides refitting, resculpting, and the NeX.

That should keep out all the PvP.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#8 - 2014-04-17 17:27:28 UTC
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
how about CCP making an area of space where it is actually SAFE, where any aggression like locking up a ship or bumping results in ship and pod being destroyed..a super safe hisec ultra sec if you will.

Almost impossible to gank in these areas. i say almost, but i mean NEVER.

everyone is banging on about getting more players into the game, welll...this post is directed to all the risk adverse pilots who want to carebear without worry. knowing that gankers and griefers cannot operate as they do now in normal hisec..


i am certain that an area of ultra-sec would be stuffed with pilots every day. and the forums filled with the raised voices of all those pvp pilots who want more access to victims to fatten up killlboards and being denied. let the tears of frustration flow.


nerf hisec ? no i say make ultra sec.

what do you think?
That actually exists already.
A place where absolutely nobody can attack your or bump you or anything.

It's called being docked.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
leavemymomalone idiot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-04-17 17:27:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Sure. Here is a full list of the restrictions that should apply:

· You can obviously not lock any player ship.


That should keep out all the PvP.



i would have agreed with you if you stopped there but you didnt so i have to disagree.
but thank you for posting
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#10 - 2014-04-17 17:30:36 UTC
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
it is a sandbox after all why shouldn't eve have totally safe areas?
Wait, whaaaaaat?
Did I read this right? You know what a sandbox is right? They give you the basic tool, you manage your own destiny. If anything it would be more sandbox to totally remove and non-player driven entities like concord and facpo and leave it up to players to arrange defence. Now I'm not saying that should in any way be done, but jamming in more automatic safeties is pretty much the opposite of sandbox.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2014-04-17 17:50:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
i would have agreed with you if you stopped there but you didnt so i have to disagree.
but thank you for posting
Then you can forget about your idea.

Either you remove all PvP and all reasons for PvP from an area, or you allow all PvP. You don't get to do PvP or competitive activities in an environment where others are not allowed to PvP or compete back. It just doesn't work that way.

If you want PvP gone, all the things on the list (and probably a few more that I have missed) will have to go.

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it is a sandbox after all why shouldn't eve have totally safe areas?
Because being a multiplayer sandbox precludes such areas from existing.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2014-04-17 18:00:05 UTC
:Trammel:

Look how that ended up.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#13 - 2014-04-17 18:01:01 UTC
You are perfectly safe docked only thing missing is \dance.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Shydow Lugia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-04-17 18:09:49 UTC
No.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#15 - 2014-04-17 18:10:31 UTC
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
how about CCP making an area of space where it is actually SAFE, where any aggression like locking up a ship or bumping results in ship and pod being destroyed..a super safe hisec ultra sec if you will.

Almost impossible to gank in these areas. i say almost, but i mean NEVER.

everyone is banging on about getting more players into the game, welll...this post is directed to all the risk adverse pilots who want to carebear without worry. knowing that gankers and griefers cannot operate as they do now in normal hisec..


i am certain that an area of ultra-sec would be stuffed with pilots every day. and the forums filled with the raised voices of all those pvp pilots who want more access to victims to fatten up killlboards and being denied. let the tears of frustration flow.


nerf hisec ? no i say make ultra sec.

what do you think?







I'm all for it as long as the players in that super safe space can do NOTHING that affects players outside of it (who are actually taking risks, evne the 'regular high sec' guy who are at least risking suicide ganks and wardecs).

No isk making, no standings gains, no trading, no contracting. Then you got a deal.
Winchester Steele
#16 - 2014-04-17 18:12:40 UTC
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
how about CCP making an area of space where it is actually SAFE, where any aggression like locking up a ship or bumping results in ship and pod being destroyed..a super safe hisec ultra sec if you will.

Almost impossible to gank in these areas. i say almost, but i mean NEVER.

everyone is banging on about getting more players into the game, welll...this post is directed to all the risk adverse pilots who want to carebear without worry. knowing that gankers and griefers cannot operate as they do now in normal hisec..


i am certain that an area of ultra-sec would be stuffed with pilots every day. and the forums filled with the raised voices of all those pvp pilots who want more access to victims to fatten up killlboards and being denied. let the tears of frustration flow.


nerf hisec ? no i say make ultra sec.

what do you think?








We already have it. It has Pandas and everything. It's called WoW, and its that way. ---->

...

leavemymomalone idiot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-17 18:15:35 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
how about CCP making an area of space where it is actually SAFE, where any aggression like locking up a ship or bumping results in ship and pod being destroyed..a super safe hisec ultra sec if you will.

Almost impossible to gank in these areas. i say almost, but i mean NEVER.

everyone is banging on about getting more players into the game, welll...this post is directed to all the risk adverse pilots who want to carebear without worry. knowing that gankers and griefers cannot operate as they do now in normal hisec..


i am certain that an area of ultra-sec would be stuffed with pilots every day. and the forums filled with the raised voices of all those pvp pilots who want more access to victims to fatten up killlboards and being denied. let the tears of frustration flow.


nerf hisec ? no i say make ultra sec.

what do you think?







I'm all for it as long as the players in that super safe space can do NOTHING that affects players outside of it (who are actually taking risks, evne the 'regular high sec' guy who are at least risking suicide ganks and wardecs).

No isk making, no standings gains, no trading, no contracting. Then you got a deal.


i disagree. there should be missions mining distribution missions and other cool things. explain to me why the risk adverse are not allowed their own place? i think its a case of you wanting to fight with pilots who have no interest in fighting and that frustrates you and even the thought of a place where they can do what they like and be safe must be very frustrating for you.
Josef Djugashvilis
#18 - 2014-04-17 18:18:14 UTC
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:
how about CCP making an area of space where it is actually SAFE, where any aggression like locking up a ship or bumping results in ship and pod being destroyed..a super safe hisec ultra sec if you will.

Almost impossible to gank in these areas. i say almost, but i mean NEVER.

everyone is banging on about getting more players into the game, welll...this post is directed to all the risk adverse pilots who want to carebear without worry. knowing that gankers and griefers cannot operate as they do now in normal hisec..


i am certain that an area of ultra-sec would be stuffed with pilots every day. and the forums filled with the raised voices of all those pvp pilots who want more access to victims to fatten up killlboards and being denied. let the tears of frustration flow.


nerf hisec ? no i say make ultra sec.

what do you think?







Are you Baltec 1's alt?

I think we should be told Smile

This is not a signature.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#19 - 2014-04-17 18:18:55 UTC
leavemymomalone idiot wrote:

i disagree. there should be missions mining distribution missions and other cool things. explain to me why the risk adverse are not allowed their own place?


Bolded the answer to your question.

Quote:

i think its a case of you wanting to fight with pilots who have no interest in fighting and that frustrates you and even the thought of a place where they can do what they like and be safe must be very frustrating for you.


I am a PVE pilot. I fight Sanshas and Guristas. I also take risks, and since this is a game, I get enough reward for the risk.

What you want is like saying you should be able to score points in soccer without so much effort as kicking the ball into a goal. That's not a game, it's *insert censored word for self pleasuring*.
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#20 - 2014-04-17 18:20:09 UTC
I think this is the dumbest idea ever, and you really didnt think it through. I also think you should put the game down and go play something different.

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165
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