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WiS as Dust expansion
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Ira Black
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-04-17 15:09:47 UTC
So... there was about to erupt another WiS thread earlier. It was locked down. So this isnt about if it should happen. This is more an idea on a HOW.

Its in general discussion because its about 3 general things. Pretty broad stuff.

Dust is about walking on a planet. With a gun.
WiS is about... walking in stations.

Now if you allow EVE players to log into dust with a automated created character looking a bit like it, AND you add spacestations to combat enviroments to DUST...
You'd have actual civilians running around there using a FP interface you already have. This spacestation addition to Dust also functions as a cooler interface between EVE and DUST. Player run shops, contracters, PI traders.

Switching between EVE server and DUST server will be a pain probably....

Let's hear it.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-04-17 15:14:21 UTC

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Ira Black
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-04-17 15:15:36 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-04-17 15:18:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhes
Ira Black wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

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But the cool people hang here man.

Cool people don't want CCP to ruin EVE by wasting more time on WiS (or Dust lol).

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#5 - 2014-04-17 15:25:33 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

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But the cool people hang here man.

Cool people don't want CCP to ruin EVE by wasting more time on WiS (or Dust lol).


And here i thought the cool people wanted more and new content for eve.
Ira Black
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-04-17 15:29:56 UTC
"What cool people want" is a fair discussionthread.

Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#7 - 2014-04-17 15:34:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Organic Lager wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

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But the cool people hang here man.

Cool people don't want CCP to ruin EVE by wasting more time on WiS (or Dust lol).


And here i thought the cool people wanted more and new content for eve.

We do, that's the hurdle you see.

A cool technical concept of how it could be done is one thing.

Actually having a solid and breath taking concept for what the actual content would be is another.

Yes, attention to both needs to happen... you do have to be certain that you can deliver the tech infrastructure necessary for game play to be smooth... or even possible.

But it ultimately is far more important to have a strong concept of what the content and game play would consist of, and it better be damn interesting.

This is where the ball was dropped in the past... and if they want to try again they absolutely MUST get their act together on the content part as well.

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Marsha Mallow
#8 - 2014-04-17 15:40:59 UTC
Ira Black wrote:
Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion

So WiS would only be available for the console tramps then?
Fine by me, but in that case you can fund it out of Dust income, I'm not paying for it P

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#9 - 2014-04-17 15:45:15 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion

So WiS would only be available for the console tramps then?
Fine by me, but in that case you can fund it out of Dust income, I'm not paying for it P

I will say that it won't surprise me at all if an announcement is made at FanFest that DUST will be coming to PC. If that happens, who knows where it will lead.

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Ira Black
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-17 15:49:55 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion

So WiS would only be available for the console tramps then?
Fine by me, but in that case you can fund it out of Dust income, I'm not paying for it P


Good point. Didn't consider that.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#11 - 2014-04-17 15:53:01 UTC
Ira Black wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion

So WiS would only be available for the console tramps then?
Fine by me, but in that case you can fund it out of Dust income, I'm not paying for it P


Good point. Didn't consider that.



Would someone please get the lights and lock the door on this thread on their way out?

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2014-04-17 15:59:21 UTC
Ira Black wrote:
Switching between EVE server and DUST server will be a pain probably....



Yeah.. switching from Tranquility to Tranquility is a *****.

Docking up, transferring to a EVE/DUST WiS account, then powering on a PS3 just to walk around in a station, that seems much easier.

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Ira Black
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-04-17 16:10:31 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Switching between EVE server and DUST server will be a pain probably....



Yeah.. switching from Tranquility to Tranquility is a *****.

Docking up, transferring to a EVE/DUST WiS account, then powering on a PS3 just to walk around in a station, that seems much easier.


Still, if you're ganked in high-sec, have a PS and some patience... You log in you're dust alt, go to their station-CQ and throw in a grenade.
Or just do that in general. I dont know if DUST allows for proper ganking. EVE would show a podkill.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#14 - 2014-04-17 19:02:37 UTC
Ira Black wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion

So WiS would only be available for the console tramps then?
Fine by me, but in that case you can fund it out of Dust income, I'm not paying for it P


Good point. Didn't consider that.

LOL

Dust has no income... let it sink in... go ahead....

...

That's right, EVE income IS what put DUST into existence. The idea that some things from this side of the game might return to benefit EVE by means of walking in stations is hardly out of reason.

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Akkaata Shiyurida
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-04-17 19:10:39 UTC
Ira Black wrote:
So... there was about to erupt another WiS thread earlier. It was locked down. So this isnt about if it should happen. This is more an idea on a HOW.

Its in general discussion because its about 3 general things. Pretty broad stuff.

Dust is about walking on a planet. With a gun.
WiS is about... walking in stations.

Now if you allow EVE players to log into dust with a automated created character looking a bit like it, AND you add spacestations to combat enviroments to DUST...
You'd have actual civilians running around there using a FP interface you already have. This spacestation addition to Dust also functions as a cooler interface between EVE and DUST. Player run shops, contracters, PI traders.

Switching between EVE server and DUST server will be a pain probably....

Let's hear it.


There would be one problem:
Nobody would not shoot at you!

In any other way I like it
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#16 - 2014-04-18 14:11:53 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ira Black wrote:
Lets stay focussed: WiS as Dust expansion

So WiS would only be available for the console tramps then?
Fine by me, but in that case you can fund it out of Dust income, I'm not paying for it P


Good point. Didn't consider that.

LOL

Dust has no income... let it sink in... go ahead....

...

That's right, EVE income IS what put DUST into existence. The idea that some things from this side of the game might return to benefit EVE by means of walking in stations is hardly out of reason.

Free to play doesn't mean they have no income.

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#17 - 2014-04-18 14:31:01 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Nikk Narrel wrote:
LOL

Dust has no income... let it sink in... go ahead....

...

That's right, EVE income IS what put DUST into existence. The idea that some things from this side of the game might return to benefit EVE by means of walking in stations is hardly out of reason.

Free to play doesn't mean they have no income.

You are quite correct, of course.

Like this would have similar potential, but having already been paid for by subscriptions and PLEX.

The real point, is that rarely does anyone play every part of the game that they "paid" for.
We play the parts of the game we like, and our money effectively only pays for that part of the game.

Don't like cloaking? Don't pay for it. Usage is monitored on many levels, and that which brings in money today has money applied to it tomorrow. You determine where the money goes by voting with your time in the game.

We already have a strong voice for existing items this way. We must trust CCP will keep us happy, if we intend to keep playing.

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