Wormholes

Thanks, Rudin. Although you initially state that you don’t agree with me, you did exactly what I was advocating for in my post. You took time to provide feedback as to your view on the OP’s idea. You reviewed their PvP stats and offer the argument that their idea is perhaps a product of them wanting to implement change, where improving their own playstyle and how they PvP individually is possibly the better solution. You offer the suggestion that Alexylva work on their PvP tactics and style, which would likely be the alternative needed for them to see the changes they are seeking, as opposed to changing core mechanics that would impact the overall community.

To you second point, if you are hoping to always have conversations in this game in an atmosphere of “equal knowledge”, you are going to be disappointed a lot. While I don’t support or agree with every idea that I entertain, I’m still going to listen to the various members of the community and hopefully in some cases increase the knowledge of others, and sometimes myself. That maybe just something for me and is not something I should ask of the community.

Reviewing this thread, I agree with the majority that “wormholes are fine”, overall. POS mechanics are at the top of my and others’ lists. My goal is going to be to continue listening and discussing with different groups and playstyles in the wormhole community and beyond, but please understand that my listening and discussing ideas doesn’t mean that people should grab pitchforks with the “Proc is talking with these guys about an idea and is going to break wormholes!”

I think you pointing out the difference in knowledge and experience is the feedback that Saede and her guys should consider regarding this idea, and when it comes down to it, feedback is feedback. I would encourage Saede to not look at it as an insult, rather as just a different perspective.

Ah I see, so clearly I am bad at the game, because if I was 'worth my salt in pvp' I would understand that a larger diameter wormhole is a dull and contrived idea that offers nothing gameplay wise, and wouldn't waste people's time with my noobish nonsense. Right.



Maybe you're right, maybe there's not, but I think its something that is worth talking about. You think its a bad idea, great, that's still contributing to the discussion.



And you might be right again in that. For me, there's definitely a desire to have new content, but largely I just want to be able to participate in the community, and be part of the conversation.



The thing is, Proc, that the idea isn't a product of our wanting changes that benefit us, or 'make us better at pvp' or anything like that. The ideas here were out of a desire to be a member of, and contribute to, the wormhole community. In that respect, it feels a bit like I'm getting told I'm too much of a noob to have ideas and opinions. I've been playing this game for six years, and I've been in wormholes for three of them. I don't care if I get called a noob or outright insulted or whatever, but if people really don't see me as an equal member of the wormhole community, then how can I actively contribute to it? How can I participate in a community that looks at me as lesser because of my kdr?

You should have a desire and should cultivate that desire to participate and contribute within the wormhole community. You should also understand that some people won't like your ideas, some people will troll you, and some people will call you names and insult you. They do the same thing to each other and me as well. As Max said, this is the culture on these forums. That should not deter you from trying and getting involved.

People won't always like or respect you. People don't always like or respect me. People don't always like or respect each other. It doesn't/shouldn't stop you, me, or others from continuing to post, discuss, and/or being active in the community. You do you and take from these threads and conversations what you wish to take from them.