Crime & Punishment

Hello,


I've been trying to kill mission runners for three days no with no success..so obviously im doin somethin wrong .

I know the flagging mechanics and i have the basics covered but for some reason they stil won't agress me.

I scan them down using a cov ops , save the spot , doc up and swap to a tristan(tried with a magnate aswell) and begin to salvage. When i see a full wreck i loot it to become suspect..at that point they warp off.

I even tried shooting the mtu..still nothing.

Help?

Where are you doing this at? The more popular systems around the main mission hubs are populated by older carebears who know that someone in their mission pocket can only be a precursor to a bad thing. A good place to start doing this is a level 2 or 3 mission hub. Use the agent locator to find a good one, preferably away from a major trade hub.

Here's a few things I've found that work, or at very least increase your chances.


1. Steal in a hauler - that way they see an easy kill and will often take it. Obviously use an Itty V or similar, tanked with a prop mod, not something very fragile. Once aggressed, warp out, pick up pewmobile and return.

2. Aim for missions with required items, such as Damsel and Worlds. They don't like it when you take them, more so than run of the mill loot.

3. Private convo them once in the pocket and make inferences concerning their parentage. You'll often get laughed at or derided, but sometimes you'll get one that it hits a nerve with.

4. Flip your alt, let him mock you in local for being terrible. Do it twice if need be and post lossmails too. Anything that builds confidence in others that you're not going to come back in something bigger.

5. If you're going to steal in small ships, try a faction frigate. Again it looks like more of a tempting kill for the mission runner.


Good luck to you. My very first crash was a Navy Scorp worth 3b and almost 2b dropped... I haven't looked back since :)

Feyd estimates one in 8 take the bait, and other mission invaders estimate that of the ones that do take the bait, 10% do it in an intelligent, effective way (the rest are free kills).

Try a not very well known level 4 mission agent that has moderate traffic.

Always shoot the MTU. Whether you think they'll take the bait or not.

I really want to fix my sec and try out some high sec shenanigans but the pirates' life is to poor to spend isk on sec

Tag to -5 (this is super cheap), then buy one of the more expensive tags (-4.5), then head to Apanake, dodging facpo on the way in.

Lol, no. Once you've been doing it for a little while you'll get to know what's what simply by recognising scenery, specific rats and acceleration gate arrangements. Worlds Collide, for example, is easy to recognise with the two widely spaced groups of rats and gates, as is Damsel in Distress which has the two large Pleasure Hubs and Krull.

Some missions also have non-essential but more expensive items that can also help to anger the runner if collected. Arnie Scarett's social implant, for example, in Dread Pirate Scarlett. Let's not forget that many mission runners are fuelled by greed, and this is one more thing you can play on.

It's just about knowing your target's habits, wants and desires and pressing the right buttons. Doesn't always work, but sometimes a little knowledge goes a long way.

Recon 3/3, and you can avoid that by pointing an unfiltered directional scanner at the mission to see if they're even making wrecks. In fact, you can learn a lot about a mission before warping into it that way.

A-doy. Why didn't I think of that? Muchos gracias.