EVE General Discussion

No epic dogfights? Get out of highsec and go fighting and learn how its done.

Highsec combat is mostly highly competent people that know what they're doing, usually up against people that still think cap-stable steady repair is a suitable tank for any pvp ship. This includes the gankers. They know what they're doing and they've planned for it. The targets are oblivious and haven't planned for anything other than their next destination.

The game isn't "dependant" on suicide ganking - it's just very easy money. And it isn't CCP's fault. The tools are there to be safe - people just don't learn to use them.

No, that won't work... even if they take a PCO to reinforced, they'll still have to leave through their exit hole if they want to get back to where they came from before hand. If they stay, meh... more wasted isk, put up another when they leave.

Unless, of course, the residents actually have the forces to evict the invaders, then it may be fun... but there's better ways to initiate combat in wormholes than shooting at one of these piece of crap structures.

You're misreading him. He's not asking for better rewards, he's asking for it to be more fun.

just to make sure I understand - the OP's OP says he is bored and quitting due to recent changes to the game but it really sounds like he wants all areas/aspects of the game open to all players in all areas? So, he wants L5's (for example) without having to go into low-sec to get them?

did I miss anything?

If the foundation to adapt isn't within the fundamentals of the game then Everyone dies regardless. Oh wait, that's all eve is about - dying.

Enjoy wasting your lives never accomplishing anything while you dedicate all of your days and nights to this lackluster imitation of a space game that doesn't even feature zero-g vacuum simulation, manual controls, or more hardcore elements mostly found in scifi.

The complaint isn't saying he can't adapt, he is saying that there is no reason to because there is no potential reward for adapting. In other words, players are losing motivation to play because of corruption and the rigged/manipulated market ruining the game.

Hell I logged on the 29th just to get the free implant (pathetic but who cares, can't even use it - "slot is filled" with better implant)
and decided to grab some skillbooks but had to go 20 jumps just to get to an old school system that wasn't completely borked on the market. People buying the skill books and re-selling them twice as much, those people can f themselves and die irl. Thanks.

Anyway, OP is right regardless of what all you brown nosers proclaim, the game is dying because CCP can't even reinforce their own game's design and rules. Two examples: People breaking in-game mechanics to avoid consequences = unfair advantage = game broken; Second example: Poker website using bounty system as leaderboards and free advertising = broken and abused ingame mechanic that has been neglected for so many years = broken game. Anyone who wants to be a kickass bounty hunter (say, cowboy bebop style) can't because this game is broken and abused by it's player base : aka : griefers.

Eve = Griefers vs Griefers.
Anyway, Anyone innocent or just trying to enjoy the game will always get caught in between these idiot griefers who ruin the game to spite other people just to try and fill the giant empty void that is where their soul and consciousness should be.

No offense to CCP, I mean they are trying... But this game could be so much better in so many facets if they just cared more about the game instead of the revenue they get. When you care about your game, the money that comes from it is just icing on the cake. I shouldn't have to explain that a well made game = more revenue but products just made for revenue = lackluster and uninspired and usually tank/don't do well/or just crawl along.

Quoting for truth. I hate it when people say stuff like "omg CCP hates highsec players and wants them to move to lowsec/quit!".
I'm still in highsec, still having fun, in fact I just resubbed for 3 months with real money(!!). So don't take your own personal opinion of the game and force it onto everyone else.

And as Tippia rightly pointed out, this is a new and exciting development in the industrial sphere. POCOs, new battlecruisers and new tech 2 modules to build. The tax changes to PI products which cause massive market fluctuations and allow for some sweet speculative trading profits. But instead of taking advantage of all this, the OP is upset that its disrupting his sedate playstyle and has decided to quit.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that he's just bored of the game. That's cool, happens to loads of people. Just quietly take a break and go play something else. But please don't throw up a whine post on the forums blaming CCP for actually changing stuff, and claiming every single highsec dweller feels the same way you do.

Bullshit.

My list of pods gets longer and longer and altough i only claimed 80 Million ISK so far,
it's still one hell of a fun.

The reason why "EvE is dying" is because more and more people who start to play
are simply spoiled and not intelligent enough, demand easy satisfaction and don't want to use their brains.

I admit wholeheartedly that the situation for people like me could be better, absolutely,
but to say "anyone who wants to be a bountyhunter ... can't" is simply wrong !

I also acknowledge the fact that there are "too many griefers",
and CCP should implement a way for people like me to be an effective counter against them.

That said ... altough there are flaws in the current system, it's far from broken.

let me be the first to say


BOO FREEKIN HOO!

I agree.

In my small corp, 3 of us have set up PI installations across 15 planets in 0.3 and 0.2 systems next door to each other. We use Transport ships for CO interactions. We use cloaky T1 haulers, with scouts of course, to actually haul the goods on weekly runs. The destruction of NPC COs in those systems remains to be seen, but I think it's a only a matter of time before all the seriously bored Roaming squads take out all the NPC COs just for fun and their brand of lovable mischief.

What then? The little guys like us are confronted by, not just putting up one POCO, but an array of POCOs for all the planets we farm. Protecting them is not feasible for small corps like mine. Paying pirate taxes is aiding and abetting the enemy.

The price adjustments are irrelevant. The problem I see is the feasibility of a business model that includes expensive and destructible POCOs that the small fry cannot defend. Where do we go with a model like that ? Where? Out of the PI business.

If time proves me wrong, I'll gladly eat my words and rejoin the PI business. As it is now, it seems about as smart as building a dynamite factory on top of an earthquake fault.

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