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Karim Rockefeller
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#1 - 2014-04-16 12:18:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Karim Rockefeller
It's sunny outside, I can't be bothered.

1++ months.
10%+/m.
Collateralized/Uncollateralized (depending on rep.)

Bonus fact:
A group of flamingos is called a flamboyance.
Bayaz Sharvas
Plug My Hole
#2 - 2014-04-16 12:51:34 UTC
is this a joke?
Karim Rockefeller
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#3 - 2014-04-16 13:20:19 UTC
Bayaz Sharvas wrote:
is this a joke?


It's true! Pelicans come in groups called a pod.
Casey Maulerant
Big Nasty Bullies Inc.
#4 - 2014-04-16 15:23:27 UTC
Hi Karim,

I wondered if you could offer a part loan? I'm station trading in Dodixie and there's an item I normally trade in which the margin plummeted. However, there is only a few low priced sell orders left and the item will go back to normal margins, there is 44 items left I can buy out at 4.2mil, and then we're back at the normal sell price for the past 2 months of 5.2 million, I could make 220mil if they sell at 5mil a pop off a 186mil investment, I'm offering 10% (18.6mil) for 5 days/less if they sell as quick as I think they will. The item sells about 25-100 a day. I was just pining that I didn't have the money to make a quick buck when I saw your thread.

What do you think? I have no rep on MD and this is the first time of asking for a loan and I'm posting no collateral (same old excuse "it's tied up in market"). A straight no is completely understandable, but I think I'm offering a fair return on a reasonably small investment.

I'll give you a full API key before you invest so you verify I do actually station trade and that I have the funds to pay you back should the market tank on them again, though I don't think they will it's a well selling t2 item. I currently have about 700mil total invested (I only started in Feb and this is my main, made it purely off station trading off my initial tutorial mission capital so you can be reasonably confident I half way know what I'm doing). The majorities in buy orders so I can easily cancel them and pay you back, I think around 500mil.

If it does actually tank, and the price goes back to thin margins, then I can easily sell them to buy orders and recoup most of my loses and still give you your interest on top. They'd go straight to buy orders of 4mil a piece again, probably more once the market reacts and the sell price rises, so either way I'd either lose a small amount, or make a slim profit.

Lemme know what you think. If you want I can possibly budge to 12.5% because it's high risk, but I think 10% is pretty decent for a 5 day investment. I doubt they'll all sell at 5mil each anyway so I'd be making around 10mil and anymore and it's cutting fairly deep into any profit I make.

Due to the nature of the investment it demands pretty quick action, so get back to me as soon as you can. I'd prefer we got it sorted before everyone gets home from work and starts buying. I'm home all day so I can guard the order.

So: 186mil at 10% for 5 days, paying back 204.6mil in 5 days, but probably sooner I just need 5 days for if they do tank so I can make enough capital to pay you back without disturbing my investments, currently making around 10% a day. What do you think?

Thanks, Casey
Karim Rockefeller
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#5 - 2014-04-16 15:43:40 UTC
Casey Maulerant wrote:
Hi Karim,

I wondered if you could offer a part loan? I'm station trading in Dodixie and there's an item I normally trade in which the margin plummeted. However, there is only a few low priced sell orders left and the item will go back to normal margins, there is 44 items left I can buy out at 4.2mil, and then we're back at the normal sell price for the past 2 months of 5.2 million, I could make 220mil if they sell at 5mil a pop off a 186mil investment, I'm offering 10% (18.6mil) for 5 days/less if they sell as quick as I think they will. The item sells about 25-100 a day. I was just pining that I didn't have the money to make a quick buck when I saw your thread.

What do you think? I have no rep on MD and this is the first time of asking for a loan and I'm posting no collateral (same old excuse "it's tied up in market"). A straight no is completely understandable, but I think I'm offering a fair return on a reasonably small investment.

I'll give you a full API key before you invest so you verify I do actually station trade and that I have the funds to pay you back should the market tank on them again, though I don't think they will it's a well selling t2 item. I currently have about 700mil total invested (I only started in Feb and this is my main, made it purely off station trading off my initial tutorial mission capital so you can be reasonably confident I half way know what I'm doing). The majorities in buy orders so I can easily cancel them and pay you back, I think around 500mil.

If it does actually tank, and the price goes back to thin margins, then I can easily sell them to buy orders and recoup most of my loses and still give you your interest on top. They'd go straight to buy orders of 4mil a piece again, probably more once the market reacts and the sell price rises, so either way I'd either lose a small amount, or make a slim profit.

Lemme know what you think. If you want I can possibly budge to 12.5% because it's high risk, but I think 10% is pretty decent for a 5 day investment. I doubt they'll all sell at 5mil each anyway so I'd be making around 10mil and anymore and it's cutting fairly deep into any profit I make.

Due to the nature of the investment it demands pretty quick action, so get back to me as soon as you can. I'd prefer we got it sorted before everyone gets home from work and starts buying. I'm home all day so I can guard the order.

So: 186mil at 10% for 5 days, paying back 204.6mil in 5 days, but probably sooner I just need 5 days for if they do tank so I can make enough capital to pay you back without disturbing my investments, currently making around 10% a day. What do you think?

Thanks, Casey



Hi Casey,
Oh what the hell, I'll lend you the money. Despite the fact that there are hundreds of ways this might end poorly, I'm willing to take the risk. I doubt typing all that out would be worth the 186mill if this was a petty scam. Besides, a little trust never hurt nobody... right?
I'll be home a little later in the evening and send you the money.

Be good.
Casey Maulerant
Big Nasty Bullies Inc.
#6 - 2014-04-16 15:55:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Casey Maulerant
Bayaz Sharvas has offered me a 12% loan for 5 days. It's your thread so I feel bad however time is of the essence so I'm inclined to go with the quickest sender, so with this one so I had to go with him. I hope we can do business again another time.

Thanks, Casey
Casey Maulerant
Big Nasty Bullies Inc.
#7 - 2014-04-17 01:12:53 UTC
Just confirming repayment to Bayaz Sharvas here, 208.32mil - sold like hotcakes, all at max price, pleasure doing business with you Big smile
Bayaz Sharvas
Plug My Hole
#8 - 2014-04-17 01:38:15 UTC
confirming isk + interest received
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-04-17 01:48:10 UTC
Casey Maulerant wrote:
Just confirming repayment to Bayaz Sharvas here, 208.32mil - sold like hotcakes, all at max price, pleasure doing business with you Big smile



Modulated Strip Miner II? Or something else?

I region trade those, they're a great item as gankers loot them and do not ever want them, and gankees always need new ones.

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Casey Maulerant
Big Nasty Bullies Inc.
#10 - 2014-04-17 15:39:26 UTC
Quote:
Modulated Strip Miner II? Or something else?

I region trade those, they're a great item as gankers loot them and do not ever want them, and gankees always need new ones.


I'm impressed you were pretty close - Ice Harvester II's

That's pretty interesting though about gankers, I've gone straight into station trading with no experience of the actual game so I go purely off stats the meta understanding is beyond me for the time being.

Is that why the numbers going to buys are so low because they are coming from an unreliable source, and the manufacturers just bypass sells?

I had a look at modulated strip miners and there is hardly any going to sells, seems like a safe bet to buy out when the margins topple again and sell at inflated price if the source is so unreliable. What do you think?