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Taxes in 0.0 going to reduce refining advantage

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2014-04-16 00:44:07 UTC
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Lot of accurate stuff


Would be interested on your thoughts about the impact of the refining changes on producers of capitals in low sec. All I can see is a genuine reduction in their margins when the risks are as great, if not greater, than in null.

Quite a few low sec producers I know are concerned about the prospective impact.


So now that that first blog is out I feel I can safely say "I'm going to defer on this answer until the rest of the information is available" without giving away the fact that there is, in fact, more information. P

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-04-16 11:41:20 UTC
Jacabon Mere wrote:
There isn't enough practical slots for serious cap production in null. But you will likely want to throw up a small post for refining for your lowsec cap production.



the slot thing is no longer an issue. at all :D
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#43 - 2014-04-16 11:45:54 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Lot of accurate stuff


Would be interested on your thoughts about the impact of the refining changes on producers of capitals in low sec. All I can see is a genuine reduction in their margins when the risks are as great, if not greater, than in null.

Quite a few low sec producers I know are concerned about the prospective impact.


So now that that first blog is out I feel I can safely say "I'm going to defer on this answer until the rest of the information is available" without giving away the fact that there is, in fact, more information. P


Well I'll wait and see what happens but after today's announcement about the industry changes its starting to look like the low sec capital industry is now dead in the water to be honest.
Dr Grant
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-04-18 12:20:45 UTC
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Lot of accurate stuff


Would be interested on your thoughts about the impact of the refining changes on producers of capitals in low sec. All I can see is a genuine reduction in their margins when the risks are as great, if not greater, than in null.

Quite a few low sec producers I know are concerned about the prospective impact.


So now that that first blog is out I feel I can safely say "I'm going to defer on this answer until the rest of the information is available" without giving away the fact that there is, in fact, more information. P


Well I'll wait and see what happens but after today's announcement about the industry changes its starting to look like the low sec capital industry is now dead in the water to be honest.



Yes it is. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have a de-facto monopoly in null-sec. But i bet CCP won't set the NPC stations to 60 % which would be the right move. Considering the "risk vs. reward" its more risky to produce there than deep in the blue donut after all.

Again, i am not against buffing 0.0 industry, on the contrary. I am against coalitions sucking the life out of it right from the start. CCP should have probably fixed 0.0 before they introduced 0.0 industry. RIght now it means that if you want to participate in 0.0 industry you need to become someones *****. To me, that isn't a good design. The goal should be that small entities can do 0.0 industry. Would benefit the economy too.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2014-04-18 21:50:04 UTC
My alliance taxes refining, but the neighboring alliance (which is part of the coalition and thus we can use their stations) does not.

I often wonder if anyone is actually dumb enough to use our alliance stations for refining, and why they even bother taxing it.
Dr Grant
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-04-21 13:19:10 UTC
Another, more elaborate view on the issue:

http://evenews24.com/2014/04/21/jesters-trek-traitor/

It is pretty much along the lines of what i said so far. Come expansion you have to bend over to some coalition to be profitable with industry at all.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#47 - 2014-04-21 15:18:39 UTC
Volar Kang wrote:
Sounds like someone got Obama involved in null. What a shame...


Because giving your isk to George Bush did a lot of good.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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