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When will James 315 cash out?

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2014-04-15 00:24:51 UTC
Miulan Ng wrote:
Please pardon my newness to the topic, but I'd think someone as influential as James 315 would have been the subject of at least one psychological profile by adversaries and/or allies to aid in strategic planing? Such analysis might provide insight into motivations and hence future, potential actions. Cool



My analysis of His psychological profile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc#t=45

That is why He will not walk with the NO treasury.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-04-15 00:38:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Syds Sinclair
..To the OP. You do realize that the New Order treasury has been at sub one billion ISK many times, and very close to insolvency?

James 315's thread in the Market Discussion forum state ~304 billion in shares sold, true. But ~240 billion of that ISK has been paid out to reimbursements to the Knights who enforce The Code on a daily basis. James simply does not have 304 billion ISK that he could walk away with, like you are implying.

James 315 cares not for ISK. James 315 cares for Eve. That is why he has been granted the title Savior of HighSec. I actually greet him in the fashion that I see him: James 315, Savior of Eve.

OP, by making this thread you have personified that whitch The New Order fights against on a daily basis: ISK Lust. I completely understand why you are so off base. You and your ilk only care about ISK, so James and the Agents must also only care about ISK. Try being baptized in the holy embrace of Concord for a chance. Willingly and faithfully destroy a portion of your fortune. And then, you will see what ISK, and Eve truly is: A very engaging game that is rewarding to those who choose to not be bot-asperients.
Winchester Steele
#23 - 2014-04-15 00:53:02 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
..To the OP. You do realize that the New Order treasury has been at sub one billion ISK many times, and very close to insolvency?

James 315's thread in the Market Discussion forum state ~304 billion in shares sold, true. But ~240 billion of that ISK has been paid out to reimbursements to the Knights who enforce The Code on a daily basis. James simply does not have 304 billion ISK that he could walk away with, like you are implying.

James 315 cares not for ISK. James 315 cares for Eve. That is why he has been granted the title Savior of HighSec. I actually greet him in the fashion that I see him: James 315, Savior of Eve.

OP, by making this thread you have personified that whitch The New Order fights against on a daily basis: ISK Lust. I completely understand why you are so off base. You and your ilk only care about ISK, so James and the Agents must also only care about ISK. Try being baptized in the holy embrace of Concord for a chance. Willingly and faithfully destroy a portion of your fortune. And then, you will see what ISK, and Eve truly is: A very engaging game that is rewarding to those why choose to not be bit-asperients.



He's kind of like Jesus. Only real.

...

Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#24 - 2014-04-15 00:58:58 UTC
Ponzi schemes do pay out for awhile, up until the point that the money flowing in is less than the money flowing out. Paying out only legitimizes the scheme in the eyes of the new naïve investor.

It just comes down to the price you will pay for emergent content.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-04-15 01:08:54 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
Ponzi schemes do pay out for awhile, up until the point that the money flowing in is less than the money flowing out. Paying out only legitimizes the scheme in the eyes of the new naïve investor.

It just comes down to the price you will pay for emergent content.


Give me isk and I will blow it all on gank catalysts that explode every time they undock is hardly your typical Ponzi scheme sales pitch though.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-04-15 01:22:50 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
Ponzi schemes do pay out for awhile, up until the point that the money flowing in is less than the money flowing out. Paying out only legitimizes the scheme in the eyes of the new naïve investor.

It just comes down to the price you will pay for emergent content.


..Ponzi schemes, however, do not pay out 90% of the money they receive. You know, like The New Order Treasury does.
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-04-15 01:29:22 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:


He's kind of like Jesus. Only real.


..Like all prolific figures in history, James 315 has been compared to a wide spectrum of notable characters.

Let the comparisons continue, we say. The true believers in The Code all know the moniker that is the most fitting for James: The Father of HighSec and Savior of Eve.
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-04-15 13:01:24 UTC
When highsec is saved and bot aspirants play at their keyboard.
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#29 - 2014-04-15 14:35:52 UTC
OP does not understand shares in NO at all. Shares are donations to ensure tears continue to flow in high sec. Funds are used to reimburse knights for ships lost in ganks, based on the whether it was a T1, meta, or T2 Catalyst. My ganking alt has received reimbursement for every single loss mail I have submitted. A quick look at minerbumping.com will show you exactly how much ISK NO has in the treasury...it would take a crap-ton of donations in a very short period of time for the treasury to ever reach 500B.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-04-15 15:31:44 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:


He's kind of like Jesus. Only real.


..Like all prolific figures in history, James 315 has been compared to a wide spectrum of notable characters.

Let the comparisons continue, we say. The true believers in The Code all know the moniker that is the most fitting for James: The Father of HighSec and Savior of Eve.


James is the Ganker of my Heart.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-04-15 16:30:57 UTC
When all of Eve is safe from bot-aspirancy and bot-aspirant behaviour, then James can walk away with any isk remaining in the New Order treasury, and it will still only be a fraction of what he deserves for his efforts in saving Eve and making New High sec a better place for all.

Until then, there is no reason to walk away, the New Order generates unlimited content for Agents and Rebels alike. Some people value content over isk, for those, the content generated is worth far more than the New Order treasury could ever hold. On top of that, if you assume that the New Order is in fact a ponzi scheme, which you are welcome to believe if you wish, as long as the isk continues to flow in faster than it flows out, there is zero reason to walk away.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Clara Pond
Never Not Snazzy
#32 - 2014-04-16 06:07:50 UTC
I have sold six mining licenses, and bought 60 shares with the 60m isk. I have received over 200m in reimbursements in the last 3 weeks, and with loot I am slightly up on the deal.

Worst. Scam. Ever.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#33 - 2014-04-16 09:21:49 UTC
He cashed out on day one. Also, look up "Ponzi Scheme" someday.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-04-17 04:15:52 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
When all of Eve is safe from bot-aspirancy and bot-aspirant behaviour, then James can walk away with any isk remaining in the New Order treasury, and it will still only be a fraction of what he deserves for his efforts in saving Eve and making New High sec a better place for all.


And when that happens, James will walk away with 315 billion ISK.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#35 - 2014-04-17 04:40:22 UTC
Hesod Adee wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
When all of Eve is safe from bot-aspirancy and bot-aspirant behaviour, then James can walk away with any isk remaining in the New Order treasury, and it will still only be a fraction of what he deserves for his efforts in saving Eve and making New High sec a better place for all.


And when that happens, James will walk away with 315 billion ISK.




That would be an epic ending to a career of public service.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

B Raan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-04-17 09:49:47 UTC
I could care less if he cashes out or not, as long as he keeps up his blog posts, that **** is hilarious!
Abulurd Boniface
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-04-17 14:24:10 UTC
It was my understanding that, on the occasion of her summary dismissal from our ranks, Erotica 1 sent all her/his/it? ISK to James 315. That was an amount in the very many billions of ISK.

I only need about 77000 ISK though.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-04-18 07:56:10 UTC
Miulan Ng wrote:
Please pardon my newness to the topic, but I'd think someone as influential as James 315 would have been the subject of at least one psychological profile by adversaries and/or allies to aid in strategic planing? Such analysis might provide insight into motivations and hence future, potential actions. Cool

Check out his youtube videos (Battlefield315); he's a conservative nutcase (no surprise Gevlon fell in love with him) with delusions of being a great propagandist, not much else to it.

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Slave A00073078
Northern Raven Reconnaissance Syndicate
#39 - 2014-04-18 16:37:25 UTC
My eve experience from rags to riches has taught me that ISK is essentially worthless. It pretty much falls out of the sky on command. Also his spending on the reimbursement program shows he's unlikely to run off with it, since the amount he receives likely only barely covering the expense of running everything. It's only the recent large donations that put him in higher numbers, but even this amount is hardly worth running off with.

Perhaps space-poor individuals have a different view, but I've found that even making ISK a normal way (i.e not gambling) is so **** easy that it's almost worthless to steal at the amounts were talking about.
Maxmillian Rokatansky
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-04-21 17:53:04 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Miulan Ng wrote:
Please pardon my newness to the topic, but I'd think someone as influential as James 315 would have been the subject of at least one psychological profile by adversaries and/or allies to aid in strategic planing? Such analysis might provide insight into motivations and hence future, potential actions. Cool

Check out his youtube videos (Battlefield315); he's a conservative nutcase (no surprise Gevlon fell in love with him) with delusions of being a great propagandist, not much else to it.

Some verification needed on whether or not James 315 is responsible for those youtube posts (battlefield315).
Maybe some of our resident CODE fourm regulars could shine some light on this.
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