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Do grinding missions prepare you for PVP?
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Pix Severus
Empty You
#21 - 2014-04-16 01:04:54 UTC
Undocking in a 40b "epic purps" mission-running battleship prepares you for PvP.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#22 - 2014-04-16 01:10:12 UTC
Grinding missions prepares you for a low-mid level job in a cubicle farm. You could put it on your resume, even.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#23 - 2014-04-16 01:17:58 UTC
Do missions prepare you for PvP? Nope.

How do you actually prepare yourself to PvP? Alcohol. Lots of it. And friends if you can get them.

How did you Veterans start?
stoicfaux
#24 - 2014-04-16 01:21:55 UTC
Using the isk you earned from grinding missions to buy the mercs to PvP the folks that offended you counts as PvP, no?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-04-16 01:40:40 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
LOL!!!

Great replies guys. Keep'em coming.

I see I have alot to learn about PvP.

Missions are starting to get old.



Join RvB or BNI. Just do it. Don't wait until you are "ready." You won't ever be ready. Take this from someone who wasted almost a year doing PvE and nearly cancelled my sub until some kind gankers rescued me.


Heck with pimping those guys. They get enough love. Join Stay Frosty. They are super laid back, and still manage to kill all the things.

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Tran Tuyen
Amadio Family Enterprises
#26 - 2014-04-16 01:54:58 UTC
Once you've gotten the hang of basic mechanics (locking, activating mods, etc), I'd say mission grinding actually makes you less prepared for PVP. PVE gets you used to long, low-intensity "fights" with predictable enemies, which is the opposite of how PVP usually works.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#27 - 2014-04-16 03:10:44 UTC
No

What will get you prepared for PVP is fitting a cheap T1 frigate, going into your nearest low sec system and picking fights with the local inhabitants. Keep doing that till you start killing more then you lose.

That gets you ready for PVP and how I got started.
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PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-04-16 03:17:00 UTC
Grinding missions prepares you for a life of sweatshop labor. Depending on which part of the world you live in and your present position in the socio-economic hierarchy of your surroundings, this might not be the worst way to go.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#29 - 2014-04-16 03:22:28 UTC
No...as others have said. At best, it perhaps gets you started on a few fundamental things (like perhaps tracking speed and various ewar types), but it's like the difference between learning how to fire an M-16 on rifle range versus that moment when you go to condition 1 in a real scenario and people start calling contacts.

As far as what does...PVP itself. That's the beauty of it. PVP is its own teacher and does an incredible job at that, though it does often require a "tuition fee" for providing lessons. Other players are a second best, but that depends on the teacher.

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-04-16 03:28:58 UTC
Grinding missions has prepared me for a life of retrieving tramps who can't keep their hands out of their boyfriends "pleasure hub." That doesn't come up as much in PvP as you might hope.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#31 - 2014-04-16 03:41:36 UTC
I don't run missions, but from what I understand, with the right setup you can AFK a number of them.

You can't AFK pvp.

Artificial intelligence will never match player intelligence (or player stupidity). On that basis alone, missions don't prepare you for pvp.
Yvonnelein
Constant Insomnia
#32 - 2014-04-16 03:46:52 UTC
Next time I get into a fight with swarms of extremely poorly skilled players who fit 2-3 modules, don't have logistics support and don't warp out when they're in trouble, I'll be ready. Big smile
Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-04-16 04:01:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Lol no.


Ha! My exact thought when reading the title.

Seriously though, lol no.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#34 - 2014-04-16 04:31:53 UTC
RvB. Certainly not missions. When was the last time a NPC frigate killed your battlecruiser?

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Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#35 - 2014-04-16 04:35:22 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
No, but it prepares you for a special guest appearance on EVENews24 or TheMittani when you get ganked in our pimped missioning ship.

PVP prepares you for PVP.



But isnt that like saying "dont go in the water until you learn how to swim?"

No. Go into the water without knowing how to swim, and if you drown you will be cloned and wake up in a new body. Then you keep going back in the water until you stop drowning so often.
Seraphi Nephalis
Seraphi Nephalis Corporation
#36 - 2014-04-16 05:50:53 UTC
Will security missions teach you to fight other players? No, not unless other players scan you down and attack you in your mission.

Will security missions prepare you for PvP combat? That's a question that has something of a broader scope than you might think.

Missions can be used to test-drive a new ship or fit before taking it into real combat. Missions can introduce you to concepts such as transverse velocity, webifying, sensor jamming, warp scrambling, target painting, etc, etc. They can show you how bad large weapons and ships work against small targets, even when said targets are flying straight at you. Missions also provide a nice stream of ISK to fund the ubiquitous 'cheap frig' that everyone keeps telling you to fly into PVP.

There's no replacement for actual experience, of course. But that doesn't mean that you can't use missions to help you prepare if you look at it in the right way.


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samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#37 - 2014-04-16 05:56:09 UTC
Missions can prepare you for pvp in only one way: ISK

Running a couple of hours of level 4s should give you enough ISK to buy and fit a reasonable number of throwaway T1 frigs.

Buy them

Fit Them

Lose Them

It is the only way to get better at pvp. When you are happy with frigates then MAYBE move up a class. Frigates are godawesome fun though. Especially in faction warfare.

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#38 - 2014-04-16 06:40:18 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
and if not, what does?

This depends on your definition of prepare... it prepares your wallet for pvp, but in no way helps you with the actual act of pvp.

Edit: I need to finish reading the rest of the posts in a thread before posting this has been mentioned, lol
Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-04-16 06:48:28 UTC
No and nothing does. PvP is about luck....or blobs.
Greyscale Dash
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-04-16 06:52:42 UTC
Yvonnelein wrote:
Next time I get into a fight with swarms of extremely poorly skilled players who fit 2-3 modules, don't have logistics support and don't warp out when they're in trouble, I'll be ready. Big smile


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