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CCP Went Full ******!!

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Amely Miles
Second Exile
#1 - 2014-04-15 20:25:04 UTC

As everyone knows "you never go full ******".

after reading the new Dev blog that just came out i have come to see some good things and some really, really bad things.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337246&p=1 I am placing this forum post under crime and punishment because i think what CCP is doing is a crime against not only industrialists in EVE but EVERYONE in eve.

The grand scale of things is this

CCP awhile ago tried to introduce Micro transactions with the Incarna expansion in order to make more Real World Money, and as a Ex business owner i completley understand the bottom line. Because of what Micro transactions would have done to the game 5k players stood up and said NO!

CCP still being a business is of course going to look for alternative ways of Making money and they figured it out. There Plan is to cause prices of PlEX to skyrocket because of Odyssey and it's Dual character training http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/dual-character-training/ . after the Plex Prices stabilized they checked the bank and realised it wasn't enough so they decided to come out with Ship Paint http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ship-painting-pilot-program/ . yeh i know we wanted ship paint but not like this P

So Miles how does this Effect EVERYONE like you state?

well for those that can't live on EVE this will cause them to break out the credit/debit card which is great for CCP ... they meet some magical number they want in there bank but they fail to see the entire picture. For those that Leave EVE do to the fact they can't afford to pay with a credit or debit card they take In game and out of game content with them (more empty regions less market competition less pvping less guides websites forums blogs less news about eve just less in general).

this upcoming Expansion has great Industrial UI .... thats about all the good stuff i see. the loss of the ability to remotley research and remotley manufacture for Industrialists is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing) , this will also increase the amount of war decs to remove the POS's that litter moons as well as trying to get POS's to drop BPO's.

As a Side effect of needing to replace stolen or ganked bpo's because you now need to take them to the POS it will increase the cost of BPO's/BPC's as well as EVERY single thing in EVE, an additional side effect is even more people leaving the game because at this point they will not beable to sustain eve without a credit/debit card.

As I slipped my finger slowly inside her hole, I could immediately feel it getting wetter and wetter.

I took my finger back out and within seconds she was going down on me.

"I really need a new boat," I thought to myself.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#2 - 2014-04-15 20:31:54 UTC
Your post is certainly a crime. Perhaps someone will punish you for it.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#3 - 2014-04-15 21:00:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Amely Miles wrote:

As everyone knows "you never go full ******".
You did exactly this in your post Shocked

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CCP still being a business is of course going to look for alternative ways of Making money and they figured it out. There Plan is to cause prices of PlEX to skyrocket because of Odyssey and it's Dual character training http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/dual-character-training/ . after the Plex Prices stabilized they checked the bank and realised it wasn't enough so they decided to come out with Ship Paint http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ship-painting-pilot-program/ . yeh i know we wanted ship paint but not like this P
I have Dinsdale™ branded tin foil headgear for sale, I even offer a discount if you buy in bulk*.

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So Miles how does this Effect EVERYONE like you state?

well for those that can't live on EVE this will cause them to break out the credit/debit card which is great for CCP ... they meet some magical number they want in there bank but they fail to see the entire picture. For those that Leave EVE do to the fact they can't afford to pay with a credit or debit card they take In game and out of game content with them (more empty regions less market competition less pvping less guides websites forums blogs less news about eve just less in general).
Wat™?
Can I have a TL;DR that makes sense, because this is just drivel.

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this upcoming Expansion has great Industrial UI .... thats about all the good stuff i see. the loss of the ability to remotley research and remotley manufacture for Industrialists is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing) , this will also increase the amount of war decs to remove the POS's that litter moons as well as trying to get POS's to drop BPO's.
War is good for business, and business is good. You should also be making your concerns known in the appropriate thread, not in C&P.

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As a Side effect of needing to replace stolen or ganked bpo's because you now need to take them to the POS it will increase the cost of BPO's/BPC's as well as EVERY single thing in EVE, an additional side effect is even more people leaving the game because at this point they will not beable to sustain eve without a credit/debit card.
Bullshit, I've seen PLEX prices increase threefold since I started Eve, people are still paying for their game time through their efforts ingame, and will continue to do so. It's not like £10/$15/€15 a month is going to break the bank for anybody who can't raise enough ISK to purchase PLEX ingame, that's not even beer money.

*1000 units or more, conditions may or may not apply. May or may not contain actual tin foil depending on how drunk the overseers at my sweatshop Amarr manufacturing plant are and whether or not I've bothered to pay my supplier. Price is entirely at my discretion, the more you haggle, the higher it goes. Offer expires when I say it does.

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-04-15 21:12:39 UTC
I honestly don't understand what the issue is?

Plex prices are mostly due to the fact that ISK is alot easier to make now. Don't forget the time of the year either. Fanfest guys can use their ingame isk to buy plex to pay for their fanfest tickets. Alliance can also use plex to pay for their tournament entries.

That is one shyte load of plex and every year this time plex prices rose up alot.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Eleisa Joringer
Les chips electriques
#5 - 2014-04-15 21:23:54 UTC
If you complain about the rise of plex price, watch out the price of pos fuel soon .
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#6 - 2014-04-16 03:43:11 UTC
Amely Miles wrote:
this upcoming Expansion has great Industrial UI .... thats about all the good stuff i see. the loss of the ability to remotley research and remotley manufacture for Industrialists is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing) , this will also increase the amount of war decs to remove the POS's that litter moons as well as trying to get POS's to drop BPO's.

As a Side effect of needing to replace stolen or ganked bpo's because you now need to take them to the POS it will increase the cost of BPO's/BPC's as well as EVERY single thing in EVE, an additional side effect is even more people leaving the game because at this point they will not beable to sustain eve without a credit/debit card.


Because getting stuff out of a POS under siege in High sec is hard I guess? My industrialist has always done research and manufacturing with the blue print at the POS. Also you get a 24 hour notice to clear your POS of anything valuable... Anyone who loses blueprints to a war-dec is an idiot and deserves to lose their ****...

Please Q.Q more
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#7 - 2014-04-16 04:53:57 UTC
It could have something to do with that 24 million dollar failure called WoD they might be trying to get some money back from.
Winchester Steele
#8 - 2014-04-16 05:36:16 UTC
Honestly, you are making way to big of a deal out of this. Mostly no one gives two ***** about your bpo's in some backwater Hi-Sec system. You just aren't that important. The only people who really need to worry are the ones who draw attention to themselves with hilariously bad posts like this one.

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-04-16 06:00:17 UTC
Amely Miles wrote:

WAAAAA WAAAA WAAAAAAAA
I can't plex 8 alts any more. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA.


Welcome to EVE
Amely Miles
Second Exile
#10 - 2014-04-16 07:13:30 UTC
i'm one of the people that live on eve 8-14 hr days normaly Big smile
there is no QQ here and the point is not about me and what i need to deal with inorder to get around what CCP is throwing at us i've already figured out some of it and am starting to implement the workarounds already the point is not everyone will beable to deal with the changes and are going to in effect die out taking player content with them.

As I slipped my finger slowly inside her hole, I could immediately feel it getting wetter and wetter.

I took my finger back out and within seconds she was going down on me.

"I really need a new boat," I thought to myself.
Winchester Steele
#11 - 2014-04-16 07:28:42 UTC
Amely Miles wrote:
i'm one of the people that live on eve 8-14 hr days normaly Big smile
there is no QQ here and the point is not about me and what i need to deal with inorder to get around what CCP is throwing at us i've already figured out some of it and am starting to implement the workarounds already the point is not everyone will beable to deal with the changes and are going to in effect die out taking player content with them.



The bottom line here is that you posted this in the wrong forum if you want sympathy. Post in the Dev Blog thread. Anywhere else and you're just troll food.

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Bumsicle Wedgie
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-04-16 09:04:45 UTC
What, you mean you haven't been stockpiling plex for years like the rest of us?

Go me / us.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#13 - 2014-04-16 09:19:59 UTC
Personally, as someone who mines at their keyboard with only one account... I'm loving the PLEX price hike. It means fewer bot fleets to compete with.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#14 - 2014-04-16 10:45:27 UTC
Um, we told CCP that we wouldn't stand for anything other than vanity items in the Aurim store. We also told them that $70 for a single item was insane.

So now they want to make some extra $$$ by selling ship paint (Vanity Item) at around, whats the price? a buck? a couple of bucks?

Why all the Broo-Ha-Ha??? Good for CCP.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-04-16 11:53:09 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Your post is certainly a crime. Perhaps someone will punish you for it.

Or they can punish me instead Twisted
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-04-16 12:42:01 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I honestly don't understand what the issue is?

Plex prices are mostly due to the fact that ISK is alot easier to make now. Don't forget the time of the year either. Fanfest guys can use their ingame isk to buy plex to pay for their fanfest tickets. Alliance can also use plex to pay for their tournament entries.

That is one shyte load of plex and every year this time plex prices rose up alot.


This... it happens every year and every year some people cry about it like it is the swan song of the death of eve.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-16 12:44:20 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I honestly don't understand what the issue is?

Plex prices are mostly due to the fact that ISK is alot easier to make now. Don't forget the time of the year either. Fanfest guys can use their ingame isk to buy plex to pay for their fanfest tickets. Alliance can also use plex to pay for their tournament entries.

That is one shyte load of plex and every year this time plex prices rose up alot.


This... it happens every year and every year some people cry about it like it is the swan song of the death of eve.


I will admit PLEX prices have gone up quite a bit in the last year. I don't think it will be the death of Eve though
Butzewutze
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-04-16 13:02:14 UTC
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sts is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing


Well, you could also try and play with others in this MMORPG. Maybe thats the point...
Sarah xCalibre
Pod Liberation Authority
#19 - 2014-04-16 13:21:09 UTC
Butzewutze wrote:
Quote:
sts is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing


Well, you could also try and play with others in this MMORPG. Maybe thats the point...


BLASPHEMY!
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-04-16 14:01:45 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
It could have something to do with that 24 million dollar failure called WoD they might be trying to get some money back from.

..I actually wonder if that 21m (and investment in DUST) could have instead given us an EvE v2.0 re-write, with an infinitely scalable & dynamic resource-allocating architecture (i.e. No TiDi)

Ultimately though the OP mis-interpreted the rage against microtransactions, it wasn't about microtransactions per se' -- it was about microtransactions as pay to win. i.e. Game play affecting purchases.

Microtransactions for purely cosmetic features (i.e. ship skins) are just fine thank you, and no issue.

p.s.
Who do I have to pay to get an alliance logo on the side of my ships, or better yet a kill count of skulls like fighter pilots in WWII had? (grumble)

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