Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Destroyers had no trouble killing frigates before crucible, but they could be killed by AFs. They were already anti-frigate platforms. All this patch did was buff destroyers so now AFs can no longer kill them anymore.

I am not saying AFs should an an I-Win button. I never said that. What I am saying is if you build AFs around killing T1 cruisers, they will be just as useless as they are now. Plus, T1 cruisers can survive long enough that unless they are stranded by themselves, they will probably call for assistance and have you killed. While a frigate focused on killing cruisers sounds like a good idea on paper, I don't see it actually being realized in game, unless of course, you overpower them by simply adding more DPS and more Tank.

Best solution IMO is increase their scram range for now, so they at least have some added effectiveness in blobs as well as small gang\solo. Also, destroyers may still have a hard time killing intys; by bonusing scram range on AFs, you diversify them and specialize their abilities in killing frigates. Maybe they need further buffs in the future if the scram thing isn't enough, but I think it will make them immediately more useful for now.

the role bonus to Assault frigates in the upcoming patch should be

7.5% reduction in signature radius per assault ship level

this will make them harder to hit, at the same time not meddling in there original base stats to kick off some sort cry to re balance them on a later patch or update

Just to make sure you know what you are saying .. Jaguars with a signature of ~16m running around at 1.5k/s dishing out 150+dps seems balanced to you?

That is a T2 fitted Jaguar (MSE) with the mandatory Loki booster (upgraded to T2 links), cheap faction AB and the suggested sig bonus .. and you want to decrease signature even further?

It is a practical impossibility to add a single bonus to the class without widening the gap between Good and Bad. Any benefit gained by the Bad will be amplified by the already Good.

That said: I like many others are playing with dragons in Skyrim and it makes heavy use of long cooldown super abilities, perhaps that is something to consider?

Example:
Assault Module.
Fits in high slot, only available on AFs (add highs or tweak where required).
Activation time: 60s.
Cycle time: 600s.
Effect: While active the AF is immune to all eWar and projected effects (including friendly RR).

I agree with the comment about neuts, a small nos does not return enough cap to do much with. Not to mention it only takes 1 or 2 cycles from medium neuts to cap a frigate hull out and if the nuets are staggered good luck doing anything. I made a post regarding nuets and frigates here. Please read and comment.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47854&find=unread

GAH! nooooooo lol leave them, they must be remade to greatness

Then "sub-caps online" would become "Assault frigates Online"

And in a world where AFs have e-war immunity, I would demand super capital docking.

Retribution needs a second mid slots.

Perhaps the immunity should b race specific, amarr frigs should b resistant to nueting, caldari to jamming, gallente could get a bonus where they can not b warp scrambled but only +1 pointed, and minmatar could have web resistance

True, any buff that is widespreading will increase the gap between AFs that are already better, however, it will other AFs to have a shot at glory and not b sspun around in station.

I think a possible halfway point is to make all ewar a percentage per lvl reduction for every level of AF. This would motivate hardcore AF pilots to train AF lvl 5 and still allow lvl 4 AF pilots to make substantial use of the bonus