EVE General Discussion

OK so they are removing slots and going with a cost scaling system so that in cases where everybody just has to be trendy and all pick the same system to produce in, it will eat into the profit margin.

Big deal.


But the implications of time to produce over availability and how that affects prices based on market demand will be most interesting. On the one hand without waiting for a slot, things get produced faster, but the cost may be higher especially if there is a stampede, but the market could be flooded faster and having met demand, the prices would come down.

(this puts the "pack leader" min maxer types in a position to really screw themselves too)

No matter what happens, there will be tears. There are people who shriek if you give them one more "I" to dot or "t" to cross, merely because of OCD or it might cost them .001 ISK.

i like that the poses don't require absurd standings now, that's nice.

OK heres perspective.
I'm scottish but ill use this exapmple. No offence meant to people in my examples. I know this eve crowd just love to jump on someone.

High sec USA
Low sec Middle East
Null Sec Somalia and the Africas

If I'm making stuff to sell in USA I'd make it in the USA where its meant to be safer for production.
You think I'll fly from the states make stuff in the Middle East where its far less civilised then fly back to the USA fighting off gate camps and pirates to sell it.

Come on CCP. I hope you really aint thinking of making hi sec manufacturing less efficient. It makes no sense.

no what they are doing is removing an antiquated legacy code system (fixed static pricing) and replacing it with a player driven dynamic system

you want better manufacturing profits, make stuff where there is less completion and you'll have lower overheads
if you don't want better profits, pay higher fees in more crowded systems

Can you imagine how many HIgh-Sec POS's are going to be going BOOM after this summer patch? Imagine all the Merc groups and other PVPer's tracking down all the POS's with labs and wardeccing those corps. It will only cost you 50 million to war dec and the chance of a 100mill plus BPO dropping is going to be huge. How many of these small size alt corps actually log in each day and look for wardecs?

I see a lot of tears coming to the forums soon as POS bashing comes back in style.

For the game it does make sense.

What has lacked sense, based on what I see the nullsec crowd and the 2 or 3 industrialists out there (*snark!), is that players in complete control of their facilities do not have as much control over the efficiency of them as much as the cost and logistics of emplacing, defending, and maintaining them would imply.


Given what they wanted, and for the reasons they cited over the years (I recall some of the goons being vocal about this) we would see a day of "Nullsec super-production facilities" that would put the production and value of a highsec installation to shame.



While I don't have a dog in the fight, it only seems logical to conclude that if someone is going to pay for SOV and defend it, then having some balls-to-the-wall production capabilities is only fitting.

That would be C6 wormhole space with a Death Star POS on every moon. ;)

Quoted for posterity.

While "imagine" is the right word at this point, at least for once these are statements we'll be able to measure the accuracy of, not too far into the future.

So let's see what happens and whether you are correct. I'll predict you're not.

I have a funny feeling that if CCP goes all out with this, we'll see Osmon as the main production system for all things SoE and Jita losing some of its thunder. I'm already seeing product availability shift over to Osmon and Korsiki. I still have an alt knocking around in that part of the Forge region and when I do a price check, more often I see stuff outside than Jita then at around this time last year.

But higher nullsec production still means trade hubs in highsec, because nobody is going to do 60 jumps to buy a battle cruiser just do it can get turbo-ganked in a gate camp. If this is the wish of the run of the mill gate camper (read: players who are too dumb to hunt) they are going to get very bored sitting on that gate all day.