EVE New Citizens Q&A

I am a new player and just got myself a second account, subbing a second account just seems more convenient (and cheaper) than using PLEX to train a second character. With a second account I can also use an alt to salvage mission loot I suppose. The first account I am using to train for PvP with the intention of joining Faction Warfare (very soon). The second account I want to use for PvE activities. First on the plan for me is training to do level 4 security missions.

For now I want to rise in agent ranks to do level 4 Sisters of Eve missions. So I am now looking for suggestions on what ship to fly if I want to do it solo. My RL is crazy and hectic so I never know when I get chance to play, if I can log in and do things solo it would be best.

From the reading I have done it looks like a Dominix works well for L4 solo missions. Could I just train to fly the Dominix and then as soon as I am able to pilot it effectively (L3 Battleship & L3 Mastery) could I just use that ship to do level 2/3 missions as well as level 4?

Regarding my skill training plan I intend to train the following skills. I decided on the following remapping based on what EVEMon recommends:

Battleship 4 (including all the per-requisite skills)
Level 3 Mastery skills (Excluding the Electronic Warfare skills)

That would take me about 40 days I recon if I remap.

What do you guys feel about my choice of ship and training plan? Would I be able to do level 4 missions by the end of the plan?

While he is right about the guns he is extremely biased on racial ships no one racial ships are bad, also keep in mind with the changes due drone are getting a massive overhaul and sentry domis are not going to be the same. That said they are not going to be ba. As for the level 2/3 mission in the BS, I would not use it for 2, and at the moment you can do most 3s but no faster then a BC, and you'd feel like you are in a flying brick.

I guess you can do what you want with your cash, but this is kind of a waste of money. Most of the skills you'll train to do missions apply to PvP as well, and the few differences don't amount to all that much training time, so having your mission character and your PvP character be the same toon is extremely trivial, it's not like you're doing something completely SP-divergent like an indy alt.


SoE's not really a particularly good choice of a faction if you want to be able to do rapid-fire (i.e. combat) missions at L4. It also limits your location choices pretty severely. If you're doing it for income pick an empire faction, probably Navy or Intel. Especially if you're doing PvE on an alt, since then you can let the off-factions go as negative as you want.


The Dominix is good, though if you're reading things that claim you can semi-AFK with it be aware that that's not a thing anymore. You'll need access to the smaller ships still, though, because many... probably even the majority of... L2 and L3 missions are gated and you can't bring a battleship into them. I'd go so far as to say that there are almost no combat L2s that are BS-accessible whatsoever.

That said, in order to access BS-scale weapons at all you'll have to train all the skills for med ships/weapons in the same tree to plenty high enough to do L2s/L3s, so not really a huge caveat there.



"Sure, why not" on the masteries thing, but honestly mission running isn't exactly rocket science, whenever you reach the point where you're able to get through all the L4s you're getting without trouble you can just stop there unless you're just feeling really completionist. I didn't take the BS skill above 2 until like year 3 of play (I'd been running L4s since month 2) and I still haven't bothered unlocking T2 sentries.

It's not really something that requires "recommendations", basically, just train obvious things a bit and try 'em out until they work, mission-running has literally the lowest skill-bar to jump in the game. Yes, even lower than mining-- mining is easier in player-skill terms but you have to invest more SP in training to do it effectively than in missions.

I run L4 SOE missions with two accounts.

1 flies an armor tanked MJD Dominix fit with sentry drones

2 flies a cruiser that is also drone fit with a couple of salvagers. Cruiser always warps in first to eyeball the room, then I warp the Domi in and MJD to a good position for optimal range sentry drone fire. Cruiser takes care of any small rats that try to approach the Domi.

I don't salvage every mission. I mainly do SOE missions for the LP.

In cash terms, subbing two accounts is cheaper than plexing. Also, it keeps two characters in training and lets you fly both at once if you want to.

Like they said above, some L2 or L3 missions will have gates that will lock out a Dominix. I'd recommend you have a Myrmidon handy (and perhaps a Vexor as well, if there are missions that lock out battlecruisers); those smaller drone boats are pretty much the down-size versions of the Dominix, and will also be good for honing your piloting abilities (as opposed to the skills on your character sheet).

considereing that most l4 soe agents have suicide gankers in them i would go for a dominix.

It relatively cheap and very efficient also not much of a gank target unless you bling it up.

Keep your RP to yourself. Some new players may read this and think you are talking about ships when in fact you are just (roleplaying) a racist. NCQA is not the place for this.

To the OP - I would encourage you to start in a vexor and work up through myrmidon to dominix for level 2s/3s. Aside from the fact that your Dominix won't be allowed into most of the missions, running them with the intended ship class will improve your piloting skill and decrease the chances of a nasty shock when you get to level 4s where your Domi will take a beating. This way you get to start earlier since you'll be able to fly a myrmidon effectively much sooner than a dominix.

It's also a cheap way to try out drone boats. You may find you hate them (I do) and would rather fly a "Caldary" Raven or something.

As a ganker and general mission invader that has operated in Apanake a bit (one of the Sisters L4 systems), I can confirm the Dominix is not a ship I'd usually try to attack. I have fleet commanded a gank fleet that hit a Dominix once, but that was very unlucky for the gankee - we'd failed a more lucrative gank, and I needed to keep fleet morale up with a success, so we hit a Dominix with massive, massive overkill (23 Catalysts).

Outside of bad luck like that, a PVE fitted Dominix is better at PVP than most mission-fit battleships. You just swap the sentry drones for light drones and you can seriously hurt small player ships, especially if you fit a web. Additionally the Dominix is a ship I generally expect to be using cheap fittings. These factors mean that if I scan down a Dominix in Apanake or surrounds, then I'll usually try to scan something else down (ideally a command ship or strategic cruiser) instead.

If you are trying to avoid PvP, the one drawback the Domi has compared to other PvE ships, however, is that its "signature radius" is quite high. (This is true of all battleships). This makes it very easy for someone with combat scanner probes to find you in your mission and come to say hello.

Whilst I don't recommend it early in your EVE career as the ship is fairly skill-intensive to fly, the Ishtar is presently unmatched for missions and deadspace complexes, IMO.

The good thing is that skills invested in flying the Dominix will help you fly the Ishtar. So you can try both.





Tau - Try the Ishtar for L4s, with a two module tank (meta DCU and deadspace armor repper) and a MWD. I don't recommend this fit to newbies, but you are experienced enough to make it work. Fast warping, fast movement for mandatory in-mission travel, and decent damage output with amazing projection. (New players - fit more of a tank than this).

The problem with orbiting in a mission is that your orbit path is likely to take you close to other targets, increasing the dps you have to tank. In most cases if you need to pull range it is better to double click to manually pilot away from the cluster of ships. Pressing ctrl + d to open the tactical overlay can really help with this.