Warfare & Tactics

the gal/cal warzone is broken

gallente are way better and everyone knows it

almost everyone with a brain joins gallente because they dont want to get steamrolled in a computer game in their free time

this results in the average caldari pilot being a "sheep" and the average gallente pilot being a "wolf"

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debunked counterarguments:

1) the warzone is fine

the mass exodus of caldari pilots is evidence that this is wrong

2) we just have to wait for the durrrpendulum to swing back

waiting for more enemies to throw themselves into the meat grinder is not a solution to the core problem

3) the caldari need more sheep commanders

it has been noted that all the caldari sheep commanders quit FW because the sheeps were simply too "sheepish" to allow themselves to be shepherded effectively

furthermore, 40 sheeps lead by a wolf commander still lose to 40 wolves lead by anyone with a pulse (im looking at you guiynan).

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my proposed solution: one or more gallente alliances defect to caldari

in this way wolves can fight against wolves which will create a much more satisfactory gaming experience for those seeking competitive pvp

I consider myself more a tortoise than a sheep or wolf, but interesting stuff to ponder inside my shell. Thanks.

m8 i am not ranting ok m8?

i just want to generate more discussion on this topic.

thank you for your proposed solution.

i agree that it might work, however... can it be implemented immediately like my solution can?

where will this mystical group of good pvpers come from who will lead caldari to victory?

Repeated posting of the original arguments are a rant. Especially when your original solutions haven't gained much/if any support.

TBH there is NO quick fix. If your 'elite' gallente killer group did defect then they would just have the same problems as the FC's you have already dismissed.

The players are out there. What is required is to give them the incentive to come and fight for you and calmil.

It is a cultural thing and is one of the hardest issues to tackle in any enviroment.

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this is wrong because the FCs i dismissed were dealing with sheep. the gallente group would already contain a functioning fleet.


this is exactly the problem that im talking about. there is no incentive to join cal mil because all they do is lose.


cool

Don't you hold your systems though? The main systems havent been taken in years.

I doubt theres a huge difference in quality of noob that joins either militia. What happens to them once they join, however, is where the problems arise. Less garbage in garbage out, and more average pilot goes in, garbage happens to him, and the end product is a calmill foot soldier.

For the last 6 months all the major groups in cal have done is blob the **** out of every fight that they can. You could, solo, run three plexes in Innia before 12 calmill would show up on short to your fourth plex. This would happen at every state of vulnerability (stable, 10%, whatever.) How does one get better playing like that, or force the pilots in their corp to actually learn from their daily activities? The system isn't under threat, heres a chance to learn something in pvp, so you horrifically blob? It's just so stupid and self defeating.

The worst part of it is at the head of the blob will usually be one or more of calmills more senior players (CEO, FC, vet) clearly encouraging this type of crap. This is why your TZ coverage is so crap when it comes to system pushes. You simply can't muster 10v1 odds 24/7 so at different intervals during the day there will be 1-2 gallente plexing up a storm while 6-7 WT stay docked, because ****... if you lost 1 ship fighting gall 12v1 imagine what would happen 2v7? Better to wait for *that* FC that lead you to crushing glory in your previous 20v1 during prime TZ.

Its to the point where in the last 24 hours I've killed three Templis (Calmills oldest/strongest?) players that were trying to farm with stabs fitted. These are not farming alts of some scrub, these were the main combat toons in the main ******* caldari alliance. Why is that tolerated by corp/alliance leadership? I tried to run a small yesterday in an incursus, calmill rocked up with 11 people in mostly dessies, fine, I get a deimos, so they reship into primarily cruisers with an Ishtar and Cane in tow.....

What the actual **** is wrong with you people? You will never hold a system raising your pilots like this. As Will said, gall is grassroots so anyone with a pulse can FC us, if the fleet even has an FC, calmill is some form of top heavy gargantuan that crushes any initiative new recruits have. It is sad to see tbh.

This has been done before. It was called Wolfsbrigade and then Happy Endings.

We know this, but its a legit thread because it's true.

I agree that it is a crap situation when this is happening.

But:
SoTF, Spiritus Draconis and some JUSTK pilots are doing it too.

You don't notice Caldari doing it because you are only engaging Caldari.
The problem exists equally on both sides.


You need many Gallente Corps to take good look in the mirror too.