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N3 Video of Exploit to Gank CFC Titan

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#201 - 2014-04-15 01:16:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
The Slayer wrote:
Spitballing numbers here but there are what, 500k subscribers? if half of a percent of them file a reimbursement request once a week (not very unlikely) thats 2500 petitions asking for reimbursement ALONE, on top of the however many thousand others they receive. I don't imagine reimbursement requests are a 2 minute job for GMs either.

Sure, though isn't this a month old already?

I recently submitted a reimbursement request associated with the 28 Feb DDoS attack and it was reimbursed within a week.

A month seems a bit long.

Based on my reimbursement request experience (which is limited) I would think CCP have already ruled on the request and decided not to reimburse. In that case, if the ship was originally within the shield and close to the edge, then fair game for anyone that wants to do something similar.

It would be great to have to full FRAPS of it.

EDIT: The loss was on 26 March, so 20 days ago. Not a month.
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#202 - 2014-04-15 01:18:00 UTC
I just wish they'd ban people for discussing open petitions and discussing exploits on the forums.

None of this belongs here and tbh I care more about the breaking of the above rules than I do about the loss of one of a bagillion titans that should probably be deleted from the servers anyways.

I don't care who you are or why you think the rules here shouldn't apply to your special snowflake selves.

"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain."
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#203 - 2014-04-15 01:22:16 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:


It would be great to have to full FRAPS of it.


Don't think that will happen, because it would show the bump and that the ship was probably clearly inside the bubble.
Avon
#204 - 2014-04-15 01:23:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:



So tell us all how titans with a top speed of less than 100m/s bumped eachother to 1000-2000m/s if they wernt cynoed on top of eachother. Then tell us why they bumped vees titan through the pos before they used their DD rather than use them right away.


I can make a supposition, as you have, but I can't prove it anymore than you can - the evidence isn't there.


Titans cyno in, clattering into each other as is their want. They bump vees titan which is outside of the shield when they land on-top of it, but it whizzes inside the shield before they can lock it - OHNOES!

But wait ... he isn't slowing much ... hang on guys, blap him if he exits the other side!



Point is, who knows?

I don't.
You don't.
CCP may (but let's face it, probably don't).


So, with a lack of evidence you can either man up and take your medicine .. or you can run around the forums with your hair on fire crying about where the bad man touched you in the hope that outrage will ensue and some poor innocent (or not) will get lynched by a frantic mob trying to save their kiddies from a nasty pedo.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#205 - 2014-04-15 01:24:07 UTC
Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
I just wish they'd ban people for discussing open petitions and discussing exploits on the forums

If every forum rule-breaking post led to a ban, there would be no one here.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#206 - 2014-04-15 01:24:40 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
So tell us all how titans with a top speed of less than 100m/s bumped eachother to 1000-2000m/s if they wernt cynoed on top of eachother. Then tell us why they bumped vees titan through the pos before they used their DD rather than use them right away.


If the titan was not fully inside the pos shield when they cynoed in they would have bumped the part of the titan that was outside the shield. This would have caused the effect seen in the video. Or :aliens:


It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.

That aside, if we are talking about the ranges that Avon is going on about they would have popped up 30km away from the shield. That either means vees titan was very far from the sheild (which it wasnt) and they bumped him a staggering 70 km through a pos and didnt fire their DD till he was out the other side or they landed 30km away from vee and somehow bumped both him and eachother to speeds over 10 to 20 times faster than the ships top speed.
Avon
#207 - 2014-04-15 01:26:14 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right?
Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said"
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#208 - 2014-04-15 01:31:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
]It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


But can we agree that nowhere in the video is this made clear? Because thats my main point of contention here.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#209 - 2014-04-15 01:32:40 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Generic5Guy wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
Isnt it a little late to be crying about this now? Unless youre just trying to milk some public attention, and get some people aboard your butthurt bandwagon.

Man up, take the loss. HTFU, and STFU.


Just pointing out the video, everyone deserves to judge themselves.

Just to cite CCP:

"Attempts to bypass the game mechanics of starbase force-fields are fully visible in server logs to CCP Games’ staff and will result in appropriate action taken against the involved user accounts as per the EVE Online Suspension and Ban Policy from here on."



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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#210 - 2014-04-15 01:33:34 UTC
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right?
Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said"


Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#211 - 2014-04-15 01:35:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right?
Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said"


Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.


But can we agree that nowhere in the video that was posted can this be clearly seen?
Avon
#212 - 2014-04-15 01:36:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Avon
baltec1 wrote:
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right?
Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said"


Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.


Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#213 - 2014-04-15 01:36:26 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
]It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


But can we agree that nowhere in the video is this made clear? Because thats my main point of contention here.


Its why they cut off the cyno in part. Im suprised they put up what they did because even without the first few seconds we can see they are pos bowling.
Avon
#214 - 2014-04-15 01:37:24 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

we can see


Imagine
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#215 - 2014-04-15 01:38:18 UTC
Avon wrote:
Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"?


Game. Set. Match.
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#216 - 2014-04-15 01:39:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
I just wish they'd ban people for discussing open petitions and discussing exploits on the forums

If every forum rule-breaking post led to a ban, there would be no one here.


Good?

I'm sure there would be plenty left.

Hell, it would probably be a good bit less of a cesspool.

That's why there are rules.

Ironic really, flaunting the violation of one set of rules while demanding others be held to another set.

I mean... it's not even the right forum area ffs.

Just "hey we feel self entitled, deal with it while we cry about our ship loss"

"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain."
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#217 - 2014-04-15 01:40:14 UTC
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right?
Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said"


Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.


Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"?


We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.

I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
Avon
#218 - 2014-04-15 01:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Avon
baltec1 wrote:

I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.


I wouldn't be making excuses if the video showed that they exploited. Exploits are bad.

I seem to remember you being much better at forums baltec1 - either my memory is failing me or your ability is failing you.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#219 - 2014-04-15 01:45:44 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.


I did not see your fleet in that video either.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#220 - 2014-04-15 01:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
baltec1 wrote:
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Avon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.


I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right?
Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said"


Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.


Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"?


We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.

I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.


Only one beetard making excuses. Everyone else is simply asking you to show an actual as opposed to extrapolated infraction.

You are not doing that.

Mr Epeen Cool