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[Kronos] Pirate Faction Battleships

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Callic Veratar
#21 - 2014-04-14 14:00:56 UTC
I'm a little disappointed that the rattlesnake stays at 7.5 effective drones, though 375% of a heavy drone is pretty nasty. I can understand the reasoning with sentries included, since anything bigger would have just wiped everything off grid.

Hooray for the extra launcher and damage bonus to missiles, that should improve it's presence some.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#22 - 2014-04-14 14:01:20 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
why do some have 19 slots and the mach/vindi has 20?


I believe because when the models were updated there wasn't room for the number of effective turrets needed so they were given less slots with larger role bonuses. The Rattlesnake has less because of drones. We talked about adjusting for them all to have the same number but we like where the balance is for them and didn't feel it was worth messing with just for the sake of making the slot count match.


weird Rattle is only gurista ship with the -1 slot then hhmm....

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
CCP Vesna Prishla
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-04-14 14:01:35 UTC
good changes :D RATTLESNAKEEEE

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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-04-14 14:02:12 UTC
I like this, may force me to get back into the rattler.

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Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-04-14 14:03:38 UTC
I love the Nightmare change... And the Mach is still awesome... Love it. (Might have to give an RS a try as well, I couldn't really see a point to using it before.)
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-04-14 14:04:27 UTC
Great. I am happy with these. Very nice to see you following my suggestion of giving the Nightmare a 30% AB bonus instead of a 20%, (even though you prob were thinking of that anyway). Will be interesting to see how it fares once I plug in these numbers.

Upon initial glance I am surprisingly happy with these changes. Although the Guristas line still doesn't look quite right to me. I think get rid of the missile bonus and just give them all drone speed/tracking/range bonuses instead.

Apart from that, I think you have nailed it Rise!
AleAlejandro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-04-14 14:04:36 UTC
Straight up buff to the NM <3
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#28 - 2014-04-14 14:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
All look good, good job guys...C:

I'd really love a little bump on the Rattler to 300% bonus though...that way it would have a little more to offer in the DPS division than the Navy Domi (which also has 7.5 effective turrets and 7.5 effective drones). Just nitpicking though...P
Callic Veratar
#29 - 2014-04-14 14:05:16 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Morukk Nuamzzar wrote:
Snake prices going up now?


At 497 mill still. I was on board earlier. Smile


I'm +74M each based on that price. It's a good start!
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-04-14 14:06:28 UTC
Great changes but I second that the Mach needs symmetry in the turrets! I wouldn't mind some slot wizardry to drop it to 6 turrets or something.

+1 for not nerfing it!

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As strength goes.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#31 - 2014-04-14 14:08:18 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Super sentries. Told you, Arthur. Big smile


This will at least shut up the people who were ready to scream bloody murder if The 'Snake only got bonuses to heavies lol.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#32 - 2014-04-14 14:08:48 UTC
surprised you left the vindis mass so high though .. i thought it would get the mega treatment here...

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Fisty The Gesticulate Bushmaster
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-04-14 14:09:14 UTC
Can we please get an update on the new warp speeds for Dramiel, Cynabal and Machariel?
Morukk Nuamzzar
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2014-04-14 14:09:54 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Morukk Nuamzzar wrote:
Snake prices going up now?

At 497 mill still. I was on board earlier. Smile

Well, not anymore Smile
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#35 - 2014-04-14 14:10:02 UTC
And thanks for not nerfing the Mach, i half expected a drone bay nerf if nothing else, but this is really cool.
Callic Veratar
#36 - 2014-04-14 14:10:12 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gypsio III wrote:
Super sentries. Told you, Arthur. Big smile


This will at least shut up the people who were ready to scream bloody murder if The 'Snake only got bonuses to heavies lol.


I was hoping for a 500-700% bonus to 2 heavies and nothing for sentries. 12-16 effective heavies? Yes please.
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#37 - 2014-04-14 14:10:33 UTC
Looks like really good changes. Thanks for not screwing up the Bhaal, still my fav ship

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#38 - 2014-04-14 14:11:35 UTC
surely the Nightmare needs a lot more agility .. you expect it be using a AB so surely it needs to turn a bit ... 13 secs maybe??

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Leeloo Alizee
Orion Constellation Inc.
#39 - 2014-04-14 14:11:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Leeloo Alizee
****
More bonuses for Nightmares DPS, at least nerf Tachyons.

Dirty lazor lovers, it is hard to get in fleet with mach even now, after this it will be impossible. More DPS and more tracking than 1400 machariel, more love for amarr and another blow in the face for Minmatars, for DPS people use vindi over 800 mach aniway
FU CCP and eat drops
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#40 - 2014-04-14 14:12:55 UTC
Can we get an MWD cap use bonus like the Thorax used to have on the NM instead of AB speed?