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Inject Plex for Skillpoint remap

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-04-14 09:58:41 UTC
I have the strangest feeling of deja vu...
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#22 - 2014-04-14 10:16:13 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Biomass yourself. Now.


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Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#23 - 2014-04-14 10:17:05 UTC
I did waste my remaps at day two and i am still alive.

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Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#24 - 2014-04-14 14:50:05 UTC
Catherine Laartii wrote:
...well, considering that you're not advocating for free SP, and I'm sure all of us have some skills we regret wasting time on, sure; I could go for that. Why not?


Why not?

Because it's a slippery road from there to buying SP for PLEX. Because it removes some of the decision based consequence. Because of all the reasons discussed in all the other threads about the same thing. Because all the people who understand what makes EVE great don't want it. Because CCP don't want it. Because it's a dumb idea.
Praxia Cymbal
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-04-15 06:35:37 UTC
To everyone that argues against a skill point remap based on the feared "pay to win" position you should consider the current facts.

There is already a fully sanctioned "pay-to-win" model in place. A player buys PLEX from CCP. The player sells the PLEX on the market for ISK. The player then goes to the character bazaar and purchases a trained pilot of their choice. The player then sells more PLEX for ISK to buy ships. The only thing this player has done is give CCP real money to accelerate their position in the game over those that do it the traditional way of creating a character, spending the time to train it, and earning the ISK in game to purchase those ships.

So before you use this argument in the countless future threads that will be created asking for this feature, take the time to come down from your self appointed seat on top of the mountain and drop the self righteous holier than though attitude that is displayed every time someone brings this subject up.

It is ok to have your own opinions, but we all know what opinions are.
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#26 - 2014-04-15 07:15:24 UTC
Praxia Cymbal wrote:
To everyone that argues against a skill point remap based on the feared "pay to win" position you should consider the current facts.

There is already a fully sanctioned "pay-to-win" model in place. A player buys PLEX from CCP. The player sells the PLEX on the market for ISK. The player then goes to the character bazaar and purchases a trained pilot of their choice. The player then sells more PLEX for ISK to buy ships. The only thing this player has done is give CCP real money to accelerate their position in the game over those that do it the traditional way of creating a character, spending the time to train it, and earning the ISK in game to purchase those ships.

So before you use this argument in the countless future threads that will be created asking for this feature, take the time to come down from your self appointed seat on top of the mountain and drop the self righteous holier than though attitude that is displayed every time someone brings this subject up.

It is ok to have your own opinions, but we all know what opinions are.


You don't really understand "pay to win", do you? Mind you, those who say skill point remap is pay to win don't either.

Neither skill point remap nor buying PLEX are pay to win. Neither gives you something for RL money that you can't get with in game money. Buying PLEX is just wealth redistribution and skill point remap is just skill point redistribution.

There are many valid reasons why skill point remapping is a bad idea that have nothing to do with pay to win. They've been amply documented in this thread and others.

You should take some of your own advice and get down off that mountain of self righteousness that you're resting on. Just because you want to redistribute your SP doesn't make it right for the game. It isn't and that can be seen by the overall negative reaction every single thread that comes up on the subject garners.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-04-15 09:14:07 UTC
on the character bazaar point...yes you buy the character with isk *but* somebody has taken the time to trian that character and you are still stuck with the skills they chose to train. Being able to remold a character skillset has been discussed multiple times even since I've been on the forums and is almost exclusively believed to be a bad idea, not least because it degrades the effort other players have put in to create their character.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#28 - 2014-04-15 09:20:33 UTC
As this idea has been proposed several times before, this thread gets a lock.

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