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Hmmm, what to train for next.
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#21 - 2014-04-13 20:09:22 UTC
Magnus Cortex wrote:
Armor comps V, Heavy Drone V, Sentry Interfacing V, Drone Interfacing V, Thermodynamics V, Gunnery supports V, your nav skills are about the worst so train acceleration control at least IV and Fuel Conservation V, you have no drug skills and shield comps need work.

This makes a whole lot of sense, though I was avoiding T2 sentries for the time being. Have a +1, this gave me a few ideas to work on (namely, nav skills, it seems everyone agrees that they are bad)

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seller1122
Perimeter Trade and Distribution Inc
#22 - 2014-04-13 20:16:52 UTC
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#23 - 2014-04-13 20:20:36 UTC
seller1122 wrote:
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.


But it takes 10 days to train for :(

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seller1122
Perimeter Trade and Distribution Inc
#24 - 2014-04-13 20:26:41 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
seller1122 wrote:
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.


But it takes 10 days to train for :(



I think when i was growing my toon i hit a point at about 40/50 mil sp where i realized i could fly sooo many different ships but none of them perfectly. I then made a decision to go through them all one by one making sure that i would only fly stuff i could fly near perfect (obvious stuff aside like gun spec 5).

TBH it was one of the best decisions i made and improved my pvp very noticeably ! In-line with this gun support skills are one of the first to be maxed (all 6 of them !! ) as these effect nearly every single ship you will fly !
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#25 - 2014-04-13 20:29:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Erufen Rito wrote:

But it takes 10 days to train for :(

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-04-13 20:30:37 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
seller1122 wrote:
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.


But it takes 10 days to train for :(


Oh wow, 10 daysRoll

If you can't make the big decisions, I suggest you move over for someone who can.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#27 - 2014-04-13 20:34:03 UTC
seller1122 wrote:

I think when i was growing my toon i hit a point at about 40/50 mil sp where i realized i could fly sooo many different ships but none of them perfectly. I then made a decision to go through them all one by one making sure that i would only fly stuff i could fly near perfect (obvious stuff aside like gun spec 5).

TBH it was one of the best decisions i made and improved my pvp very noticeably ! In-line with this gun support skills are one of the first to be maxed (all 6 of them !! ) as these effect nearly every single ship you will fly !

I know. I just trained T2 Siege, which takes something stupid like 40 days or whatever. I was just joking.

masternerdguy wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
seller1122 wrote:
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.


But it takes 10 days to train for :(


Oh wow, 10 daysRoll

If you can't make the big decisions, I suggest you move over for someone who can.

Sorry I couldn't make my joke as obvious as I had expected it to be.

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Magnus Cortex
Ginger Industrial Solutions
#28 - 2014-04-13 21:41:57 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
seller1122 wrote:
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.


But it takes 10 days to train for :(


Around 50-60m SP all the worthwhile skills that you havent trained yet are gonna be 20-50 day trains.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2014-04-13 21:50:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
seller1122 wrote:
Rapid firing 5 - no questions asked.

To me the fact you can fly all races t3s and have all 3 t2 guns unlocked without this skill is madness.

It's only 5% more damage. No biggie.

Also, ten days?! Holy hell, plan your remaps and implants. Shocked
It's a rank-2 skill — it should take no more than 6–7 days.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-04-13 23:36:23 UTC
... recommends "Synchronized Shuttle Parking"... it amazing how often you need to park shuttles two or three at a time. Blink

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-04-13 23:54:16 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
Magnus Cortex wrote:
Armor comps V, Heavy Drone V, Sentry Interfacing V, Drone Interfacing V, Thermodynamics V, Gunnery supports V, your nav skills are about the worst so train acceleration control at least IV and Fuel Conservation V, you have no drug skills and shield comps need work.

This makes a whole lot of sense, though I was avoiding T2 sentries for the time being. Have a +1, this gave me a few ideas to work on (namely, nav skills, it seems everyone agrees that they are bad)



T1 sentries are getting a huge buff in summer patch so you can afford to put off T2 sentries.

Just remember when you do go back to T2 that "post summer patch T2" will now need racial drone skills to stay on par with the DPS of the current T2s.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#32 - 2014-04-14 01:36:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's only 5% more damage. No biggie..

For real?

Oh god.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2014-04-14 01:48:55 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's only 5% more damage. No biggie..

For real?

(1/0.8) / (1/0.84) = 1.05. So yes.

The relative differences can be a bit hard to keep track of when we're dealing with reduction bonuses rather than increase bonuses. Had it been a +4% rather than a -4% per level, it would only have amounted to ~3.5% between IV and V.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#34 - 2014-04-14 02:12:33 UTC
If you're serious about training guns, you need Rapid Firing V, Surgical Strike V, Motion Prediction V, Sharpshooter V.

The only core gunnery skill you don't need to V is trajectory analysis, and that's only if you're not flying Minmatar.

If you're going to fly Minmatar, it might be advisable to train TA V.

Oh god.
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