Ships & Modules

it's cost around 460mil before for a long time and in this week after CCP Fozzie make thread about rebalance Pirate Faction Frigate and Cruiser , it's make Rattlesnake price rise to 540mil+ and still rising like Gila .

Gurista frigate and Cruiser Role bonus with specific drone type and so i don't know what would happen to Rattlesnake with role bonus Sentry or Heavy still doesn't exist .

My bet is that the RS will only be bonused for heavy drones and will be utterly useless for sentry work. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the RS will get six launchers in lieu of the kin/therm bonus and get a heavy drone MWD bonus instead.

Very unlikely indeed, since CCP has stated that they want bonuses to be consistent over the ship sizes, and the other Guristas ships do not have drone speed bonuses.

Right, but: Problem is that the RS will lose a lot of DPS due to heavy drone travel time for the PvE folks, even with a 500% drone buff. As for PVP, heavy drones would seem to be just slower missiles launched from a slow moving, large target.

My concern is that without the range and insta-damage of sentries, a heavy drone RS is a waste of everyone's time.


And you won't see a new and improved sentry RS for the reason you pointed out and because having two super bonused sentry drones would undercut the recent drone assist limits.

as someone posted on the cruiser thread the rattler will the most "glorious" rhml ship specialy designed to prove us that those dont suck
right now im rly looking into a nice passive tanked short range "melee" monster for missions

I think those are the reasons they will do exactly that, ie they are plainly keen on drones *working*.

Supply of the RS is sufficiently limited to make just fielding 1000 RS whenever you feel like it impossible. You'd have to use them for critical battles, or at least ones where the RS would be the difference.

Even if I had 10 people deliberately farming the bpc's, I'd be surprised if I could ship more than 60 a month, and they still need a domi's worth of minerals before they are good to go. CCP have also addressed (via nerfing gun-mining) the way it would have nearly balanced out by having 1 player scoop the melt with a noctis (ie I can't integrate this pipeline the way I could right now).

Its also much closer to what the RS is now. A heavies carrier really isn't something with the signature and agility of a moon, so they'd have to entirely rethink all the stats to make it into some sort of machsnake, and then it would literally be the first pirate ship that really wanted 3 battleship skills to explain what the hell it was.

2 200 dps Shield Vindi?

Rise is doing the rework so expect the heavy drone bonus only but there s a small hope that they delayed the bs change topic just to add the sentry drone bonus

The super sentries would also lack the optimal and tracking bonuses of the nearest competitor, the Dominix. While tracking matters less on the fleet scale where appropriate support is more readily available, fleet scale also brings carriers as competitors, with their own distinct set of advantages over the Rattlesnake.

TBH, a Rattlesnake with bonuses to heavy drones only, even with a hefty MWD speed bonus, wouldn't be very useful. A slow brawler BS with limited damage projection offers nothing special over many other BS.

there is no chance to see any changes to optimal but some extra bonus to speed - maybe maybe