Crime & Punishment

Bots are easy to determine. Convo the character.

If the convo is ignored - BOT
If the guy says 'yes, I'm botting' - BOT
If the guy says nothing - BOT
If the guy says 'no' LYING BOT
If the guy engages you in witty conversation - WELL PROGRAMMED BOT

pop anything that ends in BOT.

One of my close friends is in the new order, i have already talked him up about what to do if we find that this person is in the new order.

Stop.

It.

Serendipity is trolling you.

It's actually true Leto. I have some newer accounts that I use the mining guy to pay for while they skill up. (though w/ the plex prices this may not be feasable going forward). I think it's a valid question too.

No I won't do 2 clicks to dock - that's crap. I'm going to finish the roids I'm mining and get back to it when I get back to it. There is an obvious difference between a BOT and a guy that just got called to dinner or went to answer a phone or greet his kids coming in the door (and no I'm not looking to debate the difference - code guys are obvious pros at spotting botters, so they know the difference too)

My question (again) If I'm sitting afk in a belt NOT MINING am I gankable by the code guys?

It's a simple question. I'm not looking for tears or discussion. I just want a code guy (able to speak for the group) to say wether they gank afk miners not mining or not.

Yes you are gankable. We target anyone who is not following the code as laid out on the minerbumping website. The part where people trip up is the definition of bot-aspirant behavior. What you are doing counts. We expect all players in high sec to be taking the same precautions to protect themselves as they would in null sec or low sec. This means using d-scan and watching local for known gankers. Miners are additionally expected to purchase permits, but the permit is not a pass to display bot-aspirant behavior. If you are unable to comply with this, you will have to take your chances in being ganked. Hell even if you do comply you're taking your chances that some other (non-new order) group might see a tasty exhumer in the belt.

Back to the original question. If I were not a new order agent, I personally would give the guy a warning to stop afk mining, and if he continues blow up his ship and check for pod movement. if his pod continues moving back and forth, report him for botting and kick him from the corp. If it doesn't you could pay back part of his loss, but make it clear that he is asking to get ganked.

Since I am a New Order agent, I would skip the warning part, watch the pod to see if I should report him, then pod him, and if he stays in corp repeat the process until he becomes compliant or leaves.

I played AION at launch... which probably explains my outright hatred for bots.
Imagine a game completely infested by them. A game where every single quest location is swarmed by them, to the point you cannot progress, because the bots will target the quest mobs before they even fully spawn.
You get good at spotting them fast, from sheer self preservation. You also learn a lot about what they can and can't do.
My response, in the end, was to go to enemy territory, where I could kill them, and level off of bot gankjng. Which taught me a few more things.

All bots repeat patterns. The bad ones run short ones, the good ones run (very) long ones. They keep repeating the same actions, in the same order, following the same routes, following set coordinates. When killed, they will respawn and head right back to their area of operation, continuing the cycle where they left off.

Some bot programs, the more advanced ones, have programmed combat responses. This can include instant reaction to known predators. In AION, they would try to fight you. They would not be very good at it, but if there were multiple bots running the same programming in an area, they could swamp you. There is, however, no reason why there couldn't be a flight response, which would be more suitable for EVE.

Those same more advanced bot programs will allow random text spouted in chat or responding to incoming tells/whispers/pms, making them harder to detect. Not actually answering in a regular chat, however, is a strong indication something might be up.

Please note that it is entirely possible someone is monitoring their bot or bots, and actually gets to the keyboard from time to time. Just the fact they sometimes answer, does not mean they're not a bot. Watch the patterns, see if they're targeting things in the exact same order in the exact same location. And yes, killing the ship to see if the pod returns to 'mine' might work. I'm afraid the more advanced programs might actually have a check programmed in whether the ship is still there... it never does to underestimate what can be done.

Well, he's either really anti-social or a bot or both. Kill him, kick him. Or kick him and kill him afterwards. Also: what's his name and what is he flying? I might do the killing for you if you contact me ingame if you want to keep your hands clean.

Confirming Snitches get stitches. Street smarts permeate through all of life, especially the corporate world. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Do you job and always agree with your boss.

Maybe this "corpmate" was brought in by someone higher up on the food chain than you and s****** on them will get your toons s*** on.

But whatever, pop him if you must. Just be sure to bring your own tears back here for all of us to enjoy.