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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#1 - 2014-04-11 09:46:16 UTC
Hey guys ,

So i got a corp competition/ slugfest coming up and i need some ideas from the pro's

The rewards are quite big and because i am top killer on the board and i have a reputation as a good pvp'er in the corp ( yes yes laugh all you want at this ) im pretty sure il be PRIMERIED ( or however you spell that aka first to die )

So il need somethin that can take a beating .

The rules are no t2 mods but ewar is alowed . Also t1 frigs .

So im thinking a breacher should do the trick . Light missles so i can reach the kiters and just slap 2 masb's one saar and 1 aar with a cap booster.

I've eft'd it and with geno implants , some pg rigs --- it should fit .


Any thoughts?

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#2 - 2014-04-11 10:17:13 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Not saying this is right - it's just how I would approach it.

In a comp style fight you dont need a disruptor or scram.
If anyone warps off they lose instantly so wasting a mid slot, cpu & cap to hold them onfield is pointless. Big smile

I would go with something with a resist bonus for active rep + MWD + ability to apply damage at range.
I find a resist bonus is usually better than a rep bonus.

So maybe rail Merlin with 2 x masbs + mwd + web (Faction Antimatter for ammo)
Slingshot to catch things in your web.

Use keep at range and never orbit if they use td's.

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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#3 - 2014-04-11 10:47:18 UTC
Oh yea a scram/ point is useless i know, wasnt even thinking of using it.

There will be an arena type so going outside will be a no no.

Your ideea has merit but imo a mwd won't be much use cause i get the feeling il be the main atraction and will be insta tackled because most of the guys in my corp are new to pvp so im pretty sure they will have a scram.

Right now in my head it seems like a risk and i tend to lose alot if it does happen that they scram me.

Thanks though for the help

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Franky Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-04-11 10:48:56 UTC
It kinda depends what type of tournament it is, doesn't it? I mean if it's 1v1 frigates then a scram + web might be the right choice if you are scramkiting or whatever. It'll be better than dual web against mwd frigates.

You can go with stuff which can just outright tank kiters giving you all the time in the world to try and slingshot them.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#5 - 2014-04-11 11:33:40 UTC
I did specify in the op its a slugfest..

Its a free-for-all tourney

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Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#6 - 2014-04-11 12:56:18 UTC
I would use a punisher if you are just going to run up and brawl!
A dual rep Incursus if you want to tank.
I peronally would use a crucifier!
TD for the win
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#7 - 2014-04-11 14:07:30 UTC
Sounds like a breacher or an incursus is going to be the way you want to go. I would lean towards breacher so you can just shoot FOF missiles if you get jammed (sounds likely). Don't have EFT at work but MSE, MSB, cap booster gives a monster tank.

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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-04-11 14:55:56 UTC
Confirming that active tank fits with no buffer are not a completely wrong way of dealing with multiple people shooting you at once.
WaterMarks
The Keywork
#9 - 2014-04-11 15:18:17 UTC
Brawler punisher or merlin is probable what you want.
As odd as it sound mwd ac punisher with rep and a vamp is fun and effective.
Another option is a nueting tristan.

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Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#10 - 2014-04-11 15:18:51 UTC
As someone who flies the Breacher a fair bit, I'd say it's a terrible choice because the margin for error is nonexistant. You miss a rep cycle, and you're toast. Dual rep Tormentor is what I'd go with because you can comfortably run the reps and guns without having to reload either with the added bonus of having a good balance between DPS and rep strength.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#11 - 2014-04-11 17:00:04 UTC
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Moira.
#12 - 2014-04-11 17:16:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Thanatos Marathon
Plato Forko wrote:
As someone who flies the Breacher a fair bit, I'd say it's a terrible choice because the margin for error is nonexistant. You miss a rep cycle, and you're toast. Dual rep Tormentor is what I'd go with because you can comfortably run the reps and guns without having to reload either with the added bonus of having a good balance between DPS and rep strength.


Looking at your killboard you are running dual MASB instead of MSE and MSB w/cap booster or even MSE and MASB.

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Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#13 - 2014-04-11 20:09:23 UTC
Right, but either way, once the shields get chewed the armor and structure EHP disappears fast. The reason I don't trust MSB is because the activation cost is massive, and cap boosting can be unreliable when you're being neuted. It's not a risk I'd want to take in a T1 frig unless there were room to fit a nos also
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-04-12 10:38:50 UTC
Did they say anything about drones in your conditions? If it is an all T1 frig brawl a flight of well managed warrior II's could be just what you need.

Heck, do a hull tank Tristan with a meta DC just for hilarity.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#15 - 2014-04-12 11:58:27 UTC
Everything must be t1 .


I already came up with a fit.

Got a breacher with med extender 2x masb cap booster 1 saar 1 aar and dc .

I believe that should do the trick , even if i end up in second place cause of low dps to finish the other guy it will be worth it cause im pretty sure they will all try for me so if i can tank em all il be laughing my ass off

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Deerin
East Trading Co Ltd
#16 - 2014-04-13 07:03:56 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
a breacher with med extender 2x masb cap booster 1 saar 1 aar and dc .


That sounds hillarious. Please keep us informed how your slugfest goes.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#17 - 2014-04-13 07:32:45 UTC
Oh ye for sure :) il defo get back here and tell the story

Im actually thinking of fitting a cloack for the lulz. When the slug starts i cloack up and let them kill each other :))))

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2014-04-13 16:56:51 UTC
Just shoot everyone once and at least you will be the one with the most kills

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Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#19 - 2014-04-13 21:15:01 UTC
Deerin wrote:
Starbuck05 wrote:
a breacher with med extender 2x masb cap booster 1 saar 1 aar and dc .


That sounds hillarious. Please keep us informed how your slugfest goes.


I'm picturing something like Boris from Goldeneye going "I'M INVINCIBLE!!!!" before the DPS hits