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What happened with the PLEX prices? They are over 740 mil

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-04-13 02:18:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
You could probably get into an incursion fleet with a 6 month skilled logi toon I suspect. It does need a good ship though, but selling a PLEX or two can achieve that.

Well, as a 3 month character that seems like a high SP barrier to entry for me (compared to other things you can do in game). I think it's bad that the activity isn't particularly accessible to gankers, doesn't require a lot of user keyboard interaction, and that the income stream is so high. It's risk-free ISK injected into the system (on top of being ISK from PVE and not from another player) and I can't imagine it helps the price for PLEX or runaway ISK inflation in any way.

/蘭

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#62 - 2014-04-13 02:19:00 UTC
What, no one has posted this yet?



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Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#63 - 2014-04-13 02:24:12 UTC
Posting in stealth "income inequality to play EVE" thread.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#64 - 2014-04-13 02:26:25 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.

That would make sense if it weren't for their making more money on people using PLEX than people paying for a regular subscription. Oh, and for the whole “create ISK out of nowhere”. Oh, and for the “they're giving away tons of PLEX right now”. So yeah, it doesn't actually make any sense at all.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#65 - 2014-04-13 02:26:45 UTC
tiewan wrote:
Mxxpower wrote:
no one who plays this game for any length of time has only one account. I am fairly casual, and have several accounts myself. The skill system design requires alts of one sort or another.


I disagree.
Never had the desire to pay for more than one account.


Same. Little over four years, and the only time I had another account going (on plex) was a couple years back I wanted a link alt, but ended up never using the only character on that account and let it laps last year. Never paid for more than one.

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Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#66 - 2014-04-13 02:28:15 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.


Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. Roll


Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#67 - 2014-04-13 02:32:20 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.


a sub goes for like $12 a month for a year. Plex are $19.95 each no matter what. Explain to me how they make more money this way?

that's not to say I don't believe it is happening but they dress it up as a way of degrading the power of botters and rmt.

True or not who knows. I don't have alts so for me all I see is a potential to make a quick couple of billion off an hours wages.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#68 - 2014-04-13 02:32:42 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.


Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. Roll


Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.



CCP generates their own plex.

Increasing the supply would not increase the price. Economics.

In all likelihood, the culprit is the refining changes combined with the influx of new players following BR-5. More demand, unchanged supply, higher prices.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#69 - 2014-04-13 02:33:56 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.
You mean the ones they didn't get by buying them?
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#70 - 2014-04-13 02:38:15 UTC
The plex they are giving away at the live event is from seized RMT assets.

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Gwar Anzomi
Corporation of industrious Latvian potatoe farmers
#71 - 2014-04-13 02:40:09 UTC
Gustav Mannfred wrote:
As the title says, the PLEX prices raised in the past few weeks by more then 100 milShocked

Im wondering why that happened and the plexprices contimues raising.


Normal supply demand combined with a percentage rise due to posts such as yours and responses such as mine.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#72 - 2014-04-13 02:41:24 UTC
So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#73 - 2014-04-13 02:42:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Divine Entervention wrote:
So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m?

More people are using them for an ever-increasing number of services, and fewer (or the same) amount of people than before are buying them for real money, coupled with speculation on the price rising for those very reasons.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#74 - 2014-04-13 02:43:26 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m?


It's a heavily inter-related economy, there are a number of causes.

Your conspiracy theory bullshit is not one of them.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#75 - 2014-04-13 02:46:37 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.


Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. Roll


Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.



CCP generates their own plex.

Increasing the supply would not increase the price. Economics.

In all likelihood, the culprit is the refining changes combined with the influx of new players following BR-5. More demand, unchanged supply, higher prices.


if anything you'd think they would go down thanks to newbies cashing in and under cutting each other for quick isk. Maybe the newbies simply haven't hit the pay-wall yet
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#76 - 2014-04-13 02:54:55 UTC
Jessica Duranin wrote:
Just ban ISBoxing and PLEX prices will drop VERY quickly. Blink



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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#77 - 2014-04-13 02:57:09 UTC
"You can't prove my wild bullshit statements 100% wrong"

And that makes any of it true?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2014-04-13 03:14:00 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.


Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. Roll


Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.




According to CCP, the plex they give away come from confiscation from people caught RMTing. They have always claimed that, and I have no reason to distrust that claim.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#79 - 2014-04-13 04:03:33 UTC
That, or you continue to insinuate yourself into discussions to spew your own skewed "beliefs" all over everyone involved.

Some people find that highly disrespectful of other forum posters. Some people also find that to be trolling.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#80 - 2014-04-13 04:09:23 UTC
It's just inflation. If you can't take the time to figure out inflation in eve than you probably shouldn't post about PLEX prices. I use unique ships, unique items, tritainium and mercoxit prices, and tier 1 battleship prices as my benchmarks. PLEX is just keeping pace. Nobody and I mean nobody can manipulate the PLEX market for long. Those that try typically end up losing their a$$.

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