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What happened with the PLEX prices? They are over 740 mil

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#41 - 2014-04-12 22:25:19 UTC
Mxxpower wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Mxxpower wrote:
Seeing the price go up 200 million in 1 year has made it easier for me to quit this game permanently. To the people that make the argument it is easier to pay the 15 or 20 bucks to re-sub your account I agree, but no one who plays this game for any length of time has only one account. I am fairly casual, and have several accounts myself. The skill system design requires alts of one sort or another.

This game in no way can justify my paying $60 a month to keep my subs active, and in all honesty, EVE should be a free to play game with perks for paying a sub.

Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.

The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE.


Who are you talking to? The people who are paying for your subs? Your argument seems to be that they should get less ISK for their money because you want to play for free more easily.


Your reading comprehension must be off, Nice diversion though calling people that plex their accounts thief's, robbing those poor souls with barely enough disposable real money to buy extra plex to convert to isk.. We 're taking fantasy sandwiches right out of the mouths of those poor avatars because we won't buy their PLEX.

You are right of course, plex should be at least 4 billion isk to keep the poor avatars fed. it would be great for business for about a month.


Is that what I said?

OK.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#42 - 2014-04-12 22:43:35 UTC
Mxxpower wrote:
Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.

The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE.

Really? What do you base these claims on?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#43 - 2014-04-12 22:45:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mxxpower wrote:
Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.

The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE.

Really? What do you base these claims on?


A plastic bag with some solvents in, would be my guess.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-04-12 22:52:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Mxxpower wrote:
Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.

The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE.

Really? What do you base these claims on?


A plastic bag with some solvents in, would be my guess.


LMFAO

Thread is now EvE is dying
Elsewhere huffing is up 37%
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#45 - 2014-04-12 22:56:41 UTC
I think OP and his ilk need to be reminded that CCP do not seed plex to the market. They do not set prices on plex and that their main method of operation is to detect and punish those who engage in RMT activity.

as for mxx I think you should stop. If you had a point it's gone now
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-04-12 22:58:23 UTC
Just ban ISBoxing and PLEX prices will drop VERY quickly. Blink
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#47 - 2014-04-12 23:09:12 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Mxxpower wrote:
Seeing the price go up 200 million in 1 year has made it easier for me to quit this game permanently. To the people that make the argument it is easier to pay the 15 or 20 bucks to re-sub your account I agree, but no one who plays this game for any length of time has only one account. I am fairly casual, and have several accounts myself. The skill system design requires alts of one sort or another.

This game in no way can justify my paying $60 a month to keep my subs active, and in all honesty, EVE should be a free to play game with perks for paying a sub.

Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.

The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE.


Who are you talking to? The people who are paying for your subs? Your argument seems to be that they should get less ISK for their money because you want to play for free more easily.



Not that I disagree with your general statement, but I do take issue with your last line. You play for free with PLEX the same as your ships are free because you mined the material yourself. Or you undercut the materials market because the minerals you mine are free.

In other words, not free in the least.

Mr Epeen Cool
tiewan
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2014-04-12 23:11:16 UTC
Mxxpower wrote:
no one who plays this game for any length of time has only one account. I am fairly casual, and have several accounts myself. The skill system design requires alts of one sort or another.


I disagree.
Never had the desire to pay for more than one account.
Praise the Yeti
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-04-13 00:12:55 UTC
CCP are to blame for the plex price increases.

Since incursions were released they have kept going up in price.

Incursions give the casual and / or lower sp player the ability to make isk to consider plex instead of a paying sub at no real risk where as before they probably would have played and payed subscription.

When plex prices increase as they have done, incursion runners give or take even for the casual ones just whimsy off a few extra hours a month to compensate.

Longer term this will hurt the wider eve, but if ccp want to appease the greedy incursion farmers in the short term absent mind of the wider picture, then so be it.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#50 - 2014-04-13 00:16:03 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Mxxpower wrote:
Seeing the price go up 200 million in 1 year has made it easier for me to quit this game permanently. To the people that make the argument it is easier to pay the 15 or 20 bucks to re-sub your account I agree, but no one who plays this game for any length of time has only one account. I am fairly casual, and have several accounts myself. The skill system design requires alts of one sort or another.

This game in no way can justify my paying $60 a month to keep my subs active, and in all honesty, EVE should be a free to play game with perks for paying a sub.

Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.

The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE.


Who are you talking to? The people who are paying for your subs? Your argument seems to be that they should get less ISK for their money because you want to play for free more easily.



Not that I disagree with your general statement, but I do take issue with your last line. You play for free with PLEX the same as your ships are free because you mined the material yourself. Or you undercut the materials market because the minerals you mine are free.

In other words, not free in the least.

Mr Epeen Cool


"Free" in the real world currency sense that one can get a "free" ball while playing pinball.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2014-04-13 00:22:34 UTC
Incursion runners seem to be turning into the new "communist under the bed" or "terrorist threat" of EVE.

I seriously doubt there are enough Incursion people PLEXing extra accounts to suddenly put PLEX prices up 10% game wide in a month. There are not enough people running incursions nor do they have a need for 20 accounts.

Rationally there has been an increase in demand which has been exaggerated by some extreme speculation. There are people around claiming they are currently buying huge numbers of PLEX to resell when prices hit a billion.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-04-13 00:23:42 UTC
Rising PLEX prices are only bad for the people who are actually daft enough to use PLEX as game timeBig smile

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-04-13 00:25:00 UTC
Praise the Yeti wrote:
Incursions give the casual and / or lower sp player the ability to make isk to consider plex instead of a paying sub at no real risk where as before they probably would have played and payed subscription.

I agree. Everything about incursions sounds like afk mining for high SP players. This activity needs to be changed to allow more content and less farming like it is. The same goes for FW plex farming.

/蘭

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2014-04-13 00:42:25 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Praise the Yeti wrote:
Incursions give the casual and / or lower sp player the ability to make isk to consider plex instead of a paying sub at no real risk where as before they probably would have played and payed subscription.

I agree. Everything about incursions sounds like afk mining for high SP players. This activity needs to be changed to allow more content and less farming like it is. The same goes for FW plex farming.

/蘭


Not really high SP, its not like you need to bring a carrier or super. You could probably get into an incursion fleet with a 6 month skilled logi toon I suspect. It does need a good ship though, but selling a PLEX or two can achieve that.

Its actually more like mission running with the complication of fleet ops and competing fleets. If anything is ISK farming its level IV missions, my mission alt has rescued a crazy number of Damsel's for the SOE and flying a cheap T2 fitted Domi averages about 50-60 mill an hour blitzing and abandoning all except known high value loot drops (AE Silo, named ships etc) .
Chinwe Rhei
Syn Interstellar
#55 - 2014-04-13 01:16:13 UTC
Relax dudes, it's prob. just someone trying to rig the CSM election, you need a bunch of PLEX for that Attention
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#56 - 2014-04-13 02:00:30 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Rising PLEX prices are only bad for the people who are actually daft enough to use PLEX as game timeBig smile


plex seems a lot like gold. it's just an investment if you don't use it to live
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#57 - 2014-04-13 02:04:22 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Incursion runners seem to be turning into the new "communist under the bed" or "terrorist threat" of EVE.

I seriously doubt there are enough Incursion people PLEXing extra accounts to suddenly put PLEX prices up 10% game wide in a month. There are not enough people running incursions nor do they have a need for 20 accounts.

Rationally there has been an increase in demand which has been exaggerated by some extreme speculation. There are people around claiming they are currently buying huge numbers of PLEX to resell when prices hit a billion.


I personally know a guy who runs 2 incursion accounts. One is logi and the other is a dps ship.

The kicker is: they are often in different fleets at the same time. And he plays solitaire to pass the time.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-04-13 02:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Divine Entervention
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#59 - 2014-04-13 02:12:39 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX.


Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. Roll

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Bubbles Vuld
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2014-04-13 02:14:31 UTC
PLEX dropped 25m in less than 10 hours.