Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Proposal: Change the new player experience to low sec

Goal: Encourage players to understand that Eve is about Player versus Player when they first start.

Basic approach: Players start in a locked, new player environment. This has a one week set duration. Players can leave but not return.

The new player environment has access to approx five (5) systems for the basic missions.

Anyone can attack anyone within the new player systems – learn that it is a pvp game.

Top level missions have to be roughly equiv to Dagan to encourage teamwork.

Show that killing rats can be a decent income in low sec by dropping some tags.

If someone kills you it opens an automatic chat that you can use or ignore. Learn from people that killed you.

New player exit must be at least 3 jumps from hi sec.

There is thought for the new player. I know when I first left station I wanted to attack stuff. I reckon I could make these missions work.

Somebody can and will abuse this. If they don't learn somewhere along the way about pvp, they are either very lucky, very dumb, or both.

First you learn how to fly ship, I don't know if it still is this way, but when I started, the first thing I saw on my screen was a little red cross.

Once you are capable of operating in a simple enough manner, anyone who wants to expand on themselves will eventually travel to low/null and die at least once.

Putting them in lowsec first is simply teching they kid to do a roundhouse kick before he can even stand on his own two feet.

I think the best solution is for some of the later security missions to take them into lowsec as part of the mission.

I disagree. Hence my post.

I think it would be easier to learn early and lose some stuff before it mattered.

I suppose a large part of my post is geared toward the fact that players should get used to losing stuff.

I am not on a mission to stop anyone doing anything, but if they have lost something once then it will be less painful if it happens again.

This has **** all to do with anything.

A pirate lowsec career agent ^^

Some people might gravitate towards hisec naturally - that is ok - but some might stay in low sec. They might do something different - I haven't heard one reason why people shouldn't start there to begin with yet.

My OP allows for some fun and shenannigans without destroying anything.

It's bloody hard to get into this game without the UI.

I'm sorry, but you must not be playing the same game. Just look up npc kills in null sec.

Far more are pve'ing in this game at any given time than pvp.

I understand you're getting spanked by equally skilled players and need to gank noobs, but you'll have to find them on your own.

A better idea (IMO) that has occasionally popped up every once in awhile in here in F&I...


Give newbies (non-trial ones) a one-time-only OPTIONAL mission.
In this mission you would be given an "attack" frigate with a fitted Tech 1 MWD. The objective would be to reach a random null-sec system (one that isn't too far from the high-sec border) in that frigate.
Warning messages would also be written in very large text along the lines of "There is a very high chance you will be destroyed before reaching your destination" and "DO NOT bring or equip anything you cannot afford to replace."

If the newbie succeeds they will be rewarded something that only a newbie would covet (5 million ISK or something).
Regardless of winning or failing they will get a message (also in large text) at the end explaining "Taking great risks can sometimes reap great rewards. However, success in EVE is NOT GUARANTEED as other players will often stand between you and what you want. Find ways to either push them aside or get around."