Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If CCP wants to introduce some "new and interesting" ships with beefed up drones, that is great! But why do Guristas need to be ruined for so many people to do it?

We spent too long training for these versatile and skill-intensive ships for negligent devs to **** all over them due to some ridiculous uncompromising vision.

The concerns on these Guristas pirate faction ships have been ignored in the official 50+ page thread.

These concerns are centered mainly the lack of ability to use sentry drones, and foreseen total ineptness at combating non-specialized targets and possible removal of missile velocity that would greatly effect torpedo and cruise missile fits which the Rattlesnake currently has bonuses for. Countless hours of skill training will be thrown out the window and will force pilots to train in Gallente skills if they want to use sentries.

If this callous trend to Guristas contines, the great versatility Guristas ships once had will be tremendously reduced and a lot of people will be very angry with CCP for letting this happen.

We spent our time and money training for these ships and now you want to drastically change them? Totally unacceptable.

Why not improve the shields and close range missile damage instead of specializing Guristas into medium and heavy drones that have niche applications?

If you are going to force us into specialized drones, the drones at least need the ability to teleport instantly back to the drone bay.

A quote taken from the official thread concerning pirate faction cruisers. Guristas specifically.

Has anyone worked up exactly how many HP these medium drones will have, and how that compares to the ship itself?

On the Worm, the lights have a good bit more HP, until you start figuring in resists. It would be wonderful if T2 drones could inherit the resist profiles of their race.

Sentries are not the be-all, end all drone. These ships will be effective.

The point is that Guristas pilots are getting **** on, HARD. And there is no reason not to create new ships instead of ruining Guristas for so many people. A rattlesnake is very different than an Ishtar. Guristas are the only shield-tanked drone and missile ships in the game. They are unique as they are and there is no good reason whatsoever to change them so drastically.

My Ishtar is shield tanked. You got a problem with that?

do u wonder why i nominated u?

I have nothing against adding new ships.

I have something against people whining about changes outside of the threads specifically designated for their whining, though.

I also have something against people whining about perfectly reasonable and beneficial changes (Worm, Gila) and then going on to whine about changes that haven't even been announced yet (Rattlesnake).

Additionally, I have something against people who are unable to defend their point of view without using personal attacks in every single post that they make.

So, you just proved his point about personal attacks? Also, it's not "many people aren't happy" it's "a very loud minority aren't happy". Current Guristas ships overlap with Gallente ships in drone use. The only difference is that Guristas are slated towards shields while Gal favor armor on some, but not all, hulls. Oh, and presently Guristas ships also have a fairly ineffective missile bonus. Why do people want the Gila to be an Ishtar clone so badly? Or for the Rattler to be a Domi clone? We're getting shield tanked brawling drone ships with very strong and hard to kill drones, and I'm excited for it. If your flying Guristas you have to have Gallente trained up anyways, just switch to a Gallente ship.

I see you have jumped on the lemming bandwagon of the only pro argument for this change. The weak argument for this change is that they overlap with Gallente. With a more intelligent perspective you would realize they are actually relatively very different since one is shield tanked and uses missiles while the other is armor tanked and uses hybrid weapons in addition to the ships being based on Caldari Hulls and thus have Caldari maneuverability as well. A properly fit Rattlesnake is not a domi clone, it is far better in terms of damage and versatility.

The only commonality between them is their use of drones. This one factor should be an acceptable amount of overlap for a ship that is supposed to be a mix of gallente and caldari. The Guristas are nothing like Gallente except the use of drones.


The overlap argument is utterly ridiculous. There is no good reason to take away the versatility that Guristas pilots have spent time and money training for.

Next.

A CFC representative will be contacting you shortly about this little incident...I suggest you pack your things