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Funding my PvP habbit

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Percival Rose
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-04-12 13:26:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Percival Rose
When I first started playing EVE Online, I focused on making as much ISK as humanly possible with my brand new character Chris Carlyle. I ended up station trading, missioning and mining. I created Decima Technologies and it all more or less fell apart when an unexpected wardec crippled our logistics and scared the newbies.

Truth be told, I rage quit only to come back the same week. I'm still sitting on a bunch of ISK and a bunch of mission ships which makes it easy to fund my new hobby: blowing up other player's spaceships.

I want to stop mining, trading and missioning to focus on PvP entirely and I'm looking for some ideas to fund this when my 'retirement fund' runs out. I have a few ideas myself but I appreciate all input:
- Paid wardecs / assistance requests
- POS / PoCo removal
- Gatecamping, suicide ganking and or wardeccing for loot and profit
- Extortion / ransoms
- PLEX

Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.

Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#2 - 2014-04-12 13:33:04 UTC
Percival Rose
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-04-12 13:35:13 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Join FW.

That's definitely a good idea, although that would mean my whole alliance would have to enlist. (I hopped corp to evade a wardec and move my old mission boats to Jita but am in the process of re-joining the Axiom Initiative).

Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.

Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#4 - 2014-04-12 14:02:47 UTC
Percival Rose wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Join FW.

That's definitely a good idea, although that would mean my whole alliance would have to enlist. (I hopped corp to evade a wardec and move my old mission boats to Jita but am in the process of re-joining the Axiom Initiative).


Join a PVP corp.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2014-04-12 14:09:29 UTC
If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.

I for one am an extremely busy person and i am not about to spend my short time in eve doing missions, and for that, plex is wonderful.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-04-12 17:27:47 UTC
Make PvP into a career.

I act as a 'line pilot' for a sov null alliance. We have a robust SRP, pre-fit doctrine ships on contract at a discount, subsidies for purchasing expensive ships, and ships just handed to me on short notice if needed. (since they will be reimbursed, alliance mates are also quick to loan out ships to help get you into fleet)
Since I'm part of a large alliance and larger coalition, there is ALWAYS something in the fleet finder. If not, I am certain to get people to join if I create a fleet and FC.

The only PvE I do is when I'm bored between PvP fleets. I did enough to purchase a few ships up front, and now fly on our SRP, often profiting from ship losses. Since my ships are replaced, I don't need a hangar full of them. I generally keep two of whatever I fly so I can reship immediately if needed, but usually get my reimbursement very quickly anyhow. I can fly something useful for any given doctrine we have, even if it's just a Dictor.

Many alliances will further reward logistics pilots, command ship pilots, and suicide tackle like dictors. Command pilots usually get handed appropriate implants as well.

I've had the same half a bil in my wallet for ages- having very little need for isk. This is because I fight 'for something' and not just to collect KM's no one cares about.
Simply put, PvP is my 'job' in Eve. It not only costs me nothing to do, but I often profit from it.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#7 - 2014-04-12 18:51:07 UTC
Fw is about the only place where ( except for pirating ) you can make money while you pvp .

If Fw doesn't help fund your pvp .. i dunno what will

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#8 - 2014-04-12 20:40:21 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Fw is about the only place where ( except for pirating ) you can make money while you pvp .

If Fw doesn't help fund your pvp .. i dunno what will


Another vote for FW to allow you to have a pvp lifestyle, if you will, and easily be able to fun your activities.

Alaric make a good point about becoming a 'career' combat pilot in a big alliance and is one that I have thought about on manyy occasions. But I don't play well with big groups of people and like doing my own thing so FW (and a little bit of piracy on the side) is my thing.

I would be careful of just going pirate though. A Lot of them claim to make isk from it but in reality most have alts that trade, run missions, manufacture etc to make their isk. The only pirate groups (and you have to be in a decent group for this) that I know mkae isk from piracy are the station humping/gate camping ones. Not saying this is bad or anything it's just a game play that I couldn't do for an extended period of time.

So in summary my advice is that if you are 'going it alone' or with a very small corp then join FW, by far the easiest way to fun your pvp. If you don't mind being part of a bigger team and taking orders then join a big group (Null or pirate) that can assist from an alliance/logistical point of view.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Percival Rose
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-04-13 11:14:46 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:

So in summary my advice is that if you are 'going it alone' or with a very small corp then join FW, by far the easiest way to fun your pvp. If you don't mind being part of a bigger team and taking orders then join a big group (Null or pirate) that can assist from an alliance/logistical point of view.

It would be easier to just join a big null alliance. Our alliance is relatively small at this point, but we have an amazing group. I'm here to stay.


Alaric Faelen wrote:
Make PvP into a career.
Many alliances will further reward logistics pilots, command ship pilots, and suicide tackle like dictors. Command pilots usually get handed appropriate implants as well.

I guess I should talk to my executor :)


Garviel Tarrant wrote:

If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.

I'll definitely consider this when my ISK runs out. One PLEX could buy me a lot of frigates.

Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2014-04-13 16:57:38 UTC
Percival Rose wrote:

Garviel Tarrant wrote:

If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.

I'll definitely consider this when my ISK runs out. One PLEX could buy me a lot of frigates.


I fund all my pvp on like 4 plex a year.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Bowman Amouh
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division
#11 - 2014-04-13 21:33:23 UTC
PI. All you need to do is set up some null PI, and take your blockade runner or epithal around picking up your loot every so often. Then just haul it out of null.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#12 - 2014-04-16 02:13:50 UTC
I read the thread wrong.

Came here looking for info on a

PvP Hobbit.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#13 - 2014-04-16 03:26:27 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
I read the thread wrong.

Came here looking for info on a

PvP Hobbit.



I know this will sound silly but Caldari apparently has one.


Rumor is that one member actually played a Hobbit in the LOTR movies.
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#14 - 2014-04-16 13:39:01 UTC
Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.

It's like getting paid to do pvp.

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

Percival Rose
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-04-17 11:59:22 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:
Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.

It's like getting paid to do pvp.

I do like running sites. Thanks for the tip! Problem solved :)

Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.

God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#16 - 2014-04-23 03:59:04 UTC
Percival Rose wrote:
l0rd carlos wrote:
Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.

It's like getting paid to do pvp.

I do like running sites. Thanks for the tip! Problem solved :)


Yup get a link alt with probes and pvp fit HAM cerb, 100mn tengu, ishtar etc and make big bucks while dunking scrubs that probe you down looking for easy ganks. Of course you do have to know the locals and what they are capable of so that you know when to fight and when to give up the plex.

Doing this with a friend is more fun and opens up your viable ship choices. Just remember it should probably be a HAC or t3 with the proper base resist profile for the rats (gallente and caldari t2 vs serp and guristas etc) to ensure that you don't need to fit hardeners to your ship to tank the rats.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX

Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#17 - 2014-04-23 07:23:14 UTC
I point blank refuse to do anything that you HAVE to have a link alt for. If more than 1 ship is required go get some friends and do it properly!

But for easy isk making nothing beats FW hands down! It's bad tbh that it is so easy to make isk imo. But man it is boring as all buggery!

I run DED/combat site when I want a more 'active' pve time sink.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

flakeys
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-04-23 12:23:50 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.

I for one am an extremely busy person and i am not about to spend my short time in eve doing missions, and for that, plex is wonderful.



He said he has done marketing , if he's any good at it he should be making allmost passive isk with it.

SO , what i'd suggest is as others said join FW as it can be a hell of a lot of fun , and at times a hell of a lot of frustration as i had last night loosing about every fight i engaged Blink .As a trader making your isk out there is also simple , you can easily spot the main hubs for your own and opposing factions and you can seed the markets there.Should only cost you a few hours a week but it'll pay for your most ships+plex for your subscription.


We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#19 - 2014-04-23 20:54:37 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
I point blank refuse to do anything that you HAVE to have a link alt for. If more than 1 ship is required go get some friends and do it properly!

But for easy isk making nothing beats FW hands down! It's bad tbh that it is so easy to make isk imo. But man it is boring as all buggery!

I run DED/combat site when I want a more 'active' pve time sink.


Of course you don't need one, but honestly if you want to do pvp while running them you will be fighting outnumbered, against recons and logi, all of whom will be linked and without links yourself you're making your already large disadvantage even greater. It's also useful because you can always put combats on their links which will force more cautious players to cloak up links of put them down for a period of time while moving to a new safe giving you the link advantage.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX

Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#20 - 2014-04-24 00:10:06 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
I point blank refuse to do anything that you HAVE to have a link alt for. If more than 1 ship is required go get some friends and do it properly!

But for easy isk making nothing beats FW hands down! It's bad tbh that it is so easy to make isk imo. But man it is boring as all buggery!

I run DED/combat site when I want a more 'active' pve time sink.


Of course you don't need one, but honestly if you want to do pvp while running them you will be fighting outnumbered, against recons and logi, all of whom will be linked and without links yourself you're making your already large disadvantage even greater. It's also useful because you can always put combats on their links which will force more cautious players to cloak up links of put them down for a period of time while moving to a new safe giving you the link advantage.


Yeah I know Lol

I just hate it when the most common answer is to get a link alt for most activities. Cry

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

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