Intergalactic Summit

I first read this as "Ishukone Announces Aritcio Takeover Bid," which was much more intriguing. Really, Aritcio darling, you should, you know, do it. Maybe team up with Catiz for the proxy fight.

Uhm, good?

Sounds good.

-Eran

Very surprised Noden, on face value welcome it. How do you feel, about your goverment potentially handing back some of their control of the planet to the State.

As a capsuleer interested in detente between the State and the Federation, I'm feeling incredibly smug about how catastrophically idiotic everyone who was making noise about Ishukone being treasonous looks right now.

This is an important step on the road to peace.

Without knowing the details of the agreement involved for both parties it is quite hard to judge what to make of this.

I don't understand why returning Arcurio to the Caldari demanded such secrecy but we'll probably find that out with the CEP investigation.

-Nicole Graves.

Pretty much.

A lot of people counting chickens before they've hatched here.

I'd dispute that the cost is impossible to judge. As I said elsewhere, whatever the price may be, it must be A: within Ishukone's power to give, and B: not sufficient to cause them any major long-term financial or political difficulty.

While Ishukone may be authorised to serve as curators and caretakers of many districts on Home, they're NOT authorized to barter using assets that don't belong to them or to make unilateral political decisions which directly involve the rest of the State.

There's still a fairly long list of things they could authorise: an ISK lump sum, the establishment of Gallentean corporate and civil enclaves and arcologies in Ishukone-controlled planetary districts -manufacturing and research contracts at Ishukone facilities, a number of ships, a trade in proprietary technology and patents, the promise that they will pitch a policy idea to the CEP (without guarantee of acceptance), a guarantee to admit Senate human rights inspectors to Ishukone facilities and abide by their recommendations (within reason) for a minimum of five years... and so on.

What they couldn't authorise is stuff like swapping a Black Rise system, ending the militia conflict, or selling Jita 4-4 to the Federation Navy, because those things fall outside of their jurisdiction and authority. And they wouldn't do anything which would significantly destabilize them financially or politically because that would be counterproductive to the long-term interests of the corporation, the State and Home.

Ishukone doesn't write checks it can't cash. I strongly doubt that any price they could or would accept would be an unreasonable one.

Hate to say it but she has a point here. Buying back something that was stolen from you might get you back what ever it was, but it also brings profit to the person who stole it and gives them inducement to try it again.

I think at this point we've eliminated the most practical avenues of recovery that don't involve that particular downside.

It's a shame, but the fact is that we want Home back. Asking nicely didn't work at all: violence didn't work in the long run. Negotiation may have its own flaws, not least being that, I agree, we really shouldn't HAVE to pay for what is ours, but given that the alternative is, it seems, to never get it back at all then, well, I guess the thief gets paid.

We'll deal with any future attempts at theft as and when they happen, and if they do then we'll either successfully fend them off, or else we lose Home again, in which case we'll be able to add this approach as the third one on the list that didn't work and look for a new tactic. If on the other hand there are no future attempts...

Does it mean that the Federation's beaten us in that regard? Sure, you could argue that. The thing is, I reckon I can live with defeat if it means getting Home back. A defeat where you still get what you want has a very weak bite, and some objectives are worth swallowing your pride for.