Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Arguably the best reply so far. I would love to discuss but my time is limited. May I just ask why the Farmworld reference? All I am proposing is for segregation of the wolves and the sheep. Let the wolves fight for survival and the sheep breed to be farmed by CCP. Let the sheep wander off into the lair once in a while. Or are the wolves just too scared to be left without easy prey? Seems to me that is the true reason for objections... and that is just "expletive". Oh and please leave out the economy - that is a poor excuse to disturb the hive. The only thing that may suffer is the number of non-paying characters. Tough luck then, sorry. No such thing as a free lunch.

Wish I had time because this character is about to expire (for me). You are right though, I really should stop replying, getting late. I do disagree with you but at the same time thank you for taking the time to post your reasoning. No hard feelings. I think we both want the best - we just happen to see it differently. All I really want is more subs, more revenue for CCP and more for Eve. That's the truth. My methods and ideas may be crap but at least I have no regrets having voiced and defended them up to this point.

You know nothing, Eva Rourge.

CCP stated they wanted permadeath (under certain extreme circumstances, not normal defeat), players making other's vampires, super-violence, gore, and all the political tomfoolery and backstabbing you'd think would happen in a world of centuries old holier-than-thou club-strutting douchebags.

so yeah, EVE, but the only thing sparkling will be the blood on the dancefloor.

Then again, with CCP's track record, chances of it being ANYWHERE NEAR what they said they wanted, is zero.

Removed some off topic posts. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you.

While there is an understandable strong reaction against the OP's suggestion, the points raised should not be instantly dismissed as worthless, they are not.
HS is a different place from a year ago, it is perceived as significantly more aggressive now. Whether this is true or not is a matter for individual players to decide.
Null is changing too, the balance of power is becoming even more polarised, whether this is a good or bad thing is for individual players to decide.

The idea of a super safe zone is in my opinion over the top, but there certainly is room for + 1.1 and 1.2 for newer players to retire to to lick their wounds and rebuild.

There is also room for deeper areas of null, where sovereignty is less easy/possible.

The new space, CCP seagulls project holds great potential for these reasons, hopefully some of both points will be included, but I would hate EvE to become easy EvE, but sometimes it is nice to take a break and fill in the odd hour.

We must be careful not to say because we like it rough ragged and violent that all other play must be stopped, that way leads to no game for anyone to play.

So her ideas DO make a discussion point that should not be disregarded as a reflex, but to look and see why a customer, and she is a customer, believes it is required for EvE to thrive? We cannot all be right, but we can all be heard.

Yes it is hard to balance, I hope CCP are taking all the views into consideration. The perception however is what sells the game, CCP need to decide what perception will sell their product in the best way.

I personally do not believe that Hisec is safer than ever before, in fact quite the opposite, 0.5 space is clearly more active than previously. How that translates into hard numbers, I cannot say, but it is a rare day you travel the pipes without wrecks on the .5 chokepoints, or hear miners crying out in local. Maybe it was always so and I am noticing it more, Who can say, CCP Have the numbers though. It is pointless for us to second guess them.

I have no problem with alts being subscribed to do hisec industry and PvE but it is not they who get hurt, it is the new players (less than a year) who do not have the experience to know what makes a ship economic or tempting to target. Sure they can learn, or they can leave, darwin rules! We hardened up, why can't they? But.... Another one gone, and another.

There has to be a balance of all play styles, and sometimes the predators or prey need to be thinned out. Not the job of players to decide which as they do not have the data to make a clear decision. And they are not exactly unbiased.

So a 1.1 system with an even faster concord response really gains nothing, lower rewards, and people still can't help themselves even if they get banned. They still grief and kill, but definitely the perception is that that has turned around.

We have a sandbox, and that is good, CCP's own actions effect this and by bringing in low cost high alpha destroyers and battlecruisers moved the equation significantly in favour of ganking as a profession, but like the economy sometimes things need to be steered back towards balance. 0.5 ganking is seeming to get a little out of balance with the risk reward equation. Only CCP know, but we do not want to be driving out sub 1 year players. They are the new blood who are excited, they are the ones who bring their friends in as new subscribers, and they are the most likely to be upset easily, sure we can say HTFU, but CCP cannot simply depend on existing players subbing new alts.

This is one of the worst ideas I've seen in a long time.

As long as "sandbox" (ironically not sandbox if 8+ because it will be so damn limited) is connected to new eden it will make new eden hello kitty online as well.

The day this happens I quit, I can tell this with absolute certainty.

god no. This is the worst idea I've ever read since i began playing eve 6 years ago.

Now go wash your hands.