EVE General Discussion

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Brave ******* Newbies.

I hate that in some other games I have to WAIT to get to level 70 before I can wear Lvl 70 armour.

Oh wait I dont
I have to grind like a maniac.

Jesus it really hurt to read some of OPs posts in this thread. I severely hope OP is not a grown adult of sound mind, or I may cry.

You have come to complain about a game that is not worth your time to a group of people who play said game. Then try and lord it over them by some air of superiority for essentially being bad at the game?

Correct, you intentionally narrow the scope of your own opportunities by staying out of corps.

Free piece of advice, if you end up staying: find a corp for you and your buddy to join. Even if you like to play "solo", the insight and know-how you will gain from being in fleets and benefiting from the experiences of others will allow you to advance your personal goals faster than you can possibly imagine.

Just trying to help. I too like to do my own thing from time to time.

You keep calling it a "problem", but I fail to see how it is one. What is your solution to said "problem"?

Eve is Chess, while other MMOs are pretty much just Checkers.

No need to beat up the OP though...he's just stating an observation.

As a newbie myself I don't understand OP's problem at all. There are lot of posts in this thread explaining why you don't need to stop playing and waiting just because some skills take longer.

I never had to 'wait to play' in eve.

When I wanted to do something new, I trained for it, but it didn't stop me from doing the things I already could do, mining, missions, exploring, etc.

Don't solely focus on what you are training on, also focus on what you already have trained. There's no need for a full set of lvl 5 skills before you can do something. lvl 3 in skills is already enough to dabble in things, see how it pans out.

My feelings about the progression in EVE is very love/hate.

I'll spare you the part where I present myself as the MMO Hipster that hates all the mainstream MMO's and am now glad to be part of the EvE master race who are most definitely a think tank of the most mature and brilliant human beings humanity has to offer; not at composed of a mix of the same angry teenagers, grumpy 30-somethings, and closet geeks that usually populate an MMO.

Truth is I still play those games, well maybe not WoW anymore, but I did play it for about two years and had fun when I did. My fondest MMO memories come from City of Heroes (RIP) and Guild Wars, but have been playing these games for years since I was playing MUD's in the computer lab at school. Want to talk clunky UI? Oh boy... "Loot" these buddy...

Most of these games have to rely on subscriptions, micro transactions, or both to stay afloat; I think EVE falls into that latter category. I love that I can play other games, go to work, hang out with friends, or do anything else that goes with having a life; and my character doesn't suffer for me not doing 100 raids for a drop or grinding for the boots of awesome +3.

EVE tells me straight-up, "You have Awesome 3 trained, don't even think about flying the Death Stars for at least a year, but in that year you can do some cool things with Awesome 3." And honestly, that year won't feel like "waiting" because I'm busy playing around with what I can do. I haven't scratched the surface of all the things you can do in this sandbox and my main is going on 2 years. When I do eventually fly all that cool stuff, I'll be grateful it took so long because I'll be a better player and more likely to keep it in Space and not just flush it down the toilet because I'm a clueless noob with more ISK than sense.

But on the flipside, it is annoying that there is nothing I can do to speed up the advancement of my PvP alt. I wouldn't mind if core skill SP got nerfed a bit, but I won't cry if they don't. Ship and Weapon SP are fine where they are IMO. You can be effective with 4's as has been stated, 5 is for specialization, but you can do so much with 4's to imply that you are "forced" to wait is a bit much. Yes, there is waiting in terms of long term goals or skill heavy occupations, but there is a lot to do during that wait, and having to wait a bit makes it more satisfying really IMO.

But if a player has an "endgame" mindset they should definitely steer clear. Like I said, I played for about 2 years and have accomplished a whole lot of nothing. And loved every minute. So just play the neat internet spaceship minigame CCP included with EVE to kill time between clearing levels in the main SP Queue Game.

Weeeell… sure, there's “end-game content” of sorts. The one thing you can't do very soon after starting the game (flying capships) isn't it, though.